View Poll Results: Will you be getting the H1N1 Flu Shot?
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Yes, right away
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Yes, but not right away
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No, for medical reasons I cannot get flu shots
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No. (any other reason)
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10-27-2009, 03:54 PM
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#341
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bitter, jaded, cursing the fates.
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Originally Posted by troutman
Sounds dubious. Wouldn't stomach acid anihilate the virus and bacteria? Don't we all swallow phlegm all the time anyway?
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I have submitted this question to the good people at the science-based medicine blog.
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I'm under the impression that our natural mucous is impervious to our stomach acids, and therefore anything trapped inside it would be protected. However, I could very well be mistaken.
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10-27-2009, 03:55 PM
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#342
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Advice please.
OK. So a girl ended up coming back to my place on the weekend. She was kinda sick, but alcohol got in the way of both of our common sense I guess. Anyway, yada, yada, yada.....
She calls me today and tells me she has H1N1. I am showing no signs or symptoms. Does anyone know how long I would carry the virus before starting to feel it? I am really hoping I dodged a bullet here.
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10-27-2009, 04:00 PM
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#343
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Not the one...
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Originally Posted by Deelow
Advice please.
OK. So a girl ended up coming back to my place on the weekend. She was kinda sick, but alcohol got in the way of both of our common sense I guess. Anyway, yada, yada, yada.....
She calls me today and tells me she has H1N1. I am showing no signs or symptoms. Does anyone know how long I would carry the virus before starting to feel it? I am really hoping I dodged a bullet here.
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Bad news.
Preface: I'm not a doctor and this is 4th or 5th hand info.
You can be contagious up to 4 days before showing symptoms.
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10-27-2009, 04:03 PM
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#344
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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With modern medicine, it's hard to imagine the flu getting this bad, but I thought I would try and add to the fear...
http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/
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10-27-2009, 04:14 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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The Wired article I linked in this thread by Amy Wallace is generating a lot of buzz:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2353
One of the most engaging and clearly-written pieces of science journalism over the last year or so was published in Wired magazine last week. Now in the midst of a firestorm of attention, Amy Wallace’s, “An Epidemic of Fear: How Panicked Parents Skipping Shots Endangers Us All,” is part interview with rotavirus vaccine developer, pediatric infectious disease physician and immunologist, Dr Paul Offit, and description of the anti-vaccination movement in the United States.
Wallace’s work is the centerpiece of a masterful collection of smaller articles providing science-based information about vaccination that also refuts common anti-vaccination myths including “How To Win An Argument About Vaccines” and “The Misinformants: Prominent Voices in the Anti-Vaccine Crusade”.
Wired’s follow-up discussion of the issue includes, “A Short History of Vaccine Panic,” for those of us who “have a day job” and not enough time to read Paul Offit’s 2008 book, “Autism’s False Prophets.”
But most importantly, all of scientists with whom I communicate on blogs and Twitter have agreed that the science reported in Wallace’s article is almost entirely valid and supported by solid, published data. Dr. Gorski has, for example, registered his support here at SBM back on October 20th.
But the combination of scientific validity, her engaging writing style, and historical/psychological commentary on pseudoscience comes together to create an example of what science journalism can and should be.
The record-setting pageviews for Wired and froth in the comments from anti-vaccination activists tells us all we need to know about how influential Ms. Wallace’s article is already – and will continue to be.
Those articles were awesome, but the comment sections make me weep for the future. (Daniel, reader comment)
Last edited by troutman; 10-27-2009 at 04:20 PM.
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10-27-2009, 04:23 PM
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#346
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#1 Goaltender
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http://www.google.org/flutrends/ca/
Things are intense in Alberta, BC, and Ont. High in SK and MB.
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10-27-2009, 04:30 PM
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#347
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Often Thinks About Pickles
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Okotoks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deelow
Advice please.
OK. So a girl ended up coming back to my place on the weekend. She was kinda sick, but alcohol got in the way of both of our common sense I guess. Anyway, yada, yada, yada.....
She calls me today and tells me she has H1N1. I am showing no signs or symptoms. Does anyone know how long I would carry the virus before starting to feel it? I am really hoping I dodged a bullet here.
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You should be fine if you wore a condom
On your head...
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10-27-2009, 04:33 PM
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#348
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Often Thinks About Pickles
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Okotoks
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
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My Grandmother had two sons (they were less than a year old) who died of the Spanish flu in 1918. Lots of people died back in 1918 because of the flu.
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10-27-2009, 04:34 PM
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#349
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Lifetime Suspension
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I wont be getting it.
Something just seems odd to me.
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10-27-2009, 04:36 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
I wont be getting it.
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You'll let us know if you get the flu?
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10-27-2009, 04:37 PM
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#351
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
I wont be getting it.
Something just seems odd to me.
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10-27-2009, 04:38 PM
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#352
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Not the one...
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Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
I wont be getting it.
Something just seems odd to me.
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10-27-2009, 04:39 PM
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#353
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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no offense to anyone... but... if you have no medical reason not to get the shot, and you still don't get it, you are stupid.
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10-27-2009, 04:41 PM
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#354
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy
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must be from all the people standing in line together for hours spreading the germs to each other.
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10-27-2009, 04:48 PM
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#355
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Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp
no offense to anyone... but... if you have no medical reason not to get the shot, and you still don't get it, you are stupid.
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That's quite blunt.
Love it
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10-27-2009, 04:49 PM
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#356
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Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp
no offense to anyone... but... if you have no medical reason not to get the shot, and you still don't get it, you are stupid.
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I guess we'll see won't we?
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10-27-2009, 04:53 PM
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#357
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
I guess we'll see won't we?
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Just FYI, you won't be able to shoot the viruses away with bullets, like you do with most of your problems.
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10-27-2009, 04:56 PM
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#358
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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I guess just under 50% of the people who voted in this thread are just plain stupid.
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10-27-2009, 05:04 PM
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#359
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp
no offense to anyone... but... if you have no medical reason not to get the shot, and you still don't get it, you are stupid.
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Why?
I dont see any prove that it actually works and id rather not get injected with something I dont feel comfortable about.
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10-27-2009, 05:09 PM
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#360
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Originally Posted by Boblobla
I guess just under 50% of the people who voted in this thread are just plain stupid.
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yup
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