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Old 10-22-2009, 04:10 PM   #101
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:18 PM   #102
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As is evident from a lot of posters comments, not many people who have answered this so far have enough consideration or respect for either their own spirituality or their (theoretical) spouses.
How so? Are you assuming that I have to respect everyones spirituality? Because I don't. I certainly believe that everyone is free to hold their own spiritual views and express them (until your fist touches my nose of course) but I have no obligation to respect or have consideration for someones else's. Why should I? I especially can choose to respect or not respect someones views if they are my theoretical spouse.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:23 PM   #103
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I want my two daughters to marry someone rich. And nice. Those are really the only two criteria.
I want my son to marry someone who can cook. If I have to go there for the occasional meal, it had better be good and they better have beer. My daughter, on the other hand, I just hope is happy.

As for me, I did marry out of my religious beliefs (I am an atheist, she believes in a god), out of my race (I am white, she is black) and out of my sports teams (she doesn't follow sports at all). I find that while we have these (and other) differences, they are for the most part superficial.

How we raise our children, our financial views, where and how we live, how we divide up the menial jobs in the house, etc., are areas where we agree and this is why so far our relationship has been successful. Basically, you can appear to be from different worlds (and my wife and I really are!) but if you are compatible in the areas that are most important to both of you, the rest just does not matter.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:27 PM   #104
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How we raise our children, our financial views, where and how we live, how we divide up the menial jobs in the house, etc., are areas where we agree and this is why so far our relationship has been successful. Basically, you can appear to be from different worlds (and my wife and I really are!) but if you are compatible in the areas that are most important to both of you, the rest just does not matter.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:31 PM   #105
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How so? Are you assuming that I have to respect everyones spirituality? Because I don't. I certainly believe that everyone is free to hold their own spiritual views and express them (until your fist touches my nose of course) but I have no obligation to respect or have consideration for someones else's. Why should I? I especially can choose to respect or not respect someones views if they are my theoretical spouse.

I was talking about your own or your spouses spirituality, and how much the posters here seemed to marginalize their own or their (future) spouses spirituality and even belief system. I don't care if you respect even yourself, much less care if you respect my spirituality. I'm just surprised how little people care about their own belief system that they think that binding oneself to a person that doesn't share one's own fundamental way of thinking would be acceptable, unless one really doesn't care about their own beliefs and spirituality. The only way to me this makes sense is if the people who don't think it's a big deal to marry someone outside of one's religion is either
a) thinking it is akin to racism to believe you shouldn't marry someone of a different religion and therefore they think they are being "progressive",
b) haven't really thought about what it means to actually get married (or care),
c) are desperate, thinking that the only way they might get married is out of shear luck, and to limit oneself to people of one belief system means they likely won't ever get married - but are desperate to do so,
or d) don't care if their significant other has issues with it, cause they really don't care if their loved ones have issues with it.


It's a bigger deal than most think, and if it isn't right away, it can get that way sooner or later. If it's later, that can be some real trouble.

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Old 10-22-2009, 04:42 PM   #106
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I'm genuinely curious to learn what each of the Old Testament, New Testament, Koran and Torah say about marrying outside of one's religion.

Does any religion SPECIFICALLY forbid it? I'm not talking about Mother's or families, I'm talking about religion text and teachings. Does any religion excommunicate followers for marrying non-believers?

Christianity teaches us to love our neighbour and to be tolerant, so I'm curious how the religious amongst us reconcile the apparent contradiction of love and tolerance versus marrying 'outside one's kind'.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:45 PM   #107
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I'm genuinely curious to learn what each of the Old Testament, New Testament, Koran and Torah say about marrying outside of one's religion.

Does any religion SPECIFICALLY forbid it? I'm not talking about Mother's or families, I'm talking about religion text and teachings. Does any religion excommunicate followers for marrying non-believers?

Christianity teaches us to love our neighbour and to be tolerant, so I'm curious how the religious amongst us reconcile the apparent contradiction of love and tolerance versus marrying 'outside one's kind'.
That is a good question. I believe in order to marry in the church of whatever religion, you need to be a part of that faith.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:51 PM   #108
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How so? Are you assuming that I have to respect everyones spirituality? Because I don't. I certainly believe that everyone is free to hold their own spiritual views and express them (until your fist touches my nose of course) but I have no obligation to respect or have consideration for someones else's. Why should I? I especially can choose to respect or not respect someones views if they are my theoretical spouse.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:53 PM   #109
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Yeah but, is she hot? You better answer this one right, son.
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Old 10-22-2009, 05:09 PM   #110
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I'm genuinely curious to learn what each of the Old Testament, New Testament, Koran and Torah say about marrying outside of one's religion.

Does any religion SPECIFICALLY forbid it? I'm not talking about Mother's or families, I'm talking about religion text and teachings. Does any religion excommunicate followers for marrying non-believers?

Christianity teaches us to love our neighbour and to be tolerant, so I'm curious how the religious amongst us reconcile the apparent contradiction of love and tolerance versus marrying 'outside one's kind'.
The most common verse about this for Christians would be 2 Corinthians 6:14.. "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"

Yoked in this case is commonly taught to mean any kind of alignment or partnership, be it marriage or a friendship or a business arrangement.

So if the person is religious enough to take this scripture seriously, how can such a relationship work? Who wants their spouse thinking that they are wicked and dark because they aren't a believer?

As for excommunication, I've never seen it directly, I've just seen it end with the pastor declining to perform the ceremony or allow it in the church (so they get married elsewhere). I have heard of cases of excommunication though.
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As long as the girl had the ability to defend her beliefs with intelligence and reason, I'm down. That probably excludes fundamentalists though.

Race? Sure.
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:26 PM   #112
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I'm surprised at the number of people who said they aren't attracted to people outside of their own race. I don't think that is a racist thing, but speaking as a white male, I find the women I am most attracted to are NOT white.
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My dear woman is Chinese and an agnostic, while I am white as snow and a semi-theist. We get along great.

Oh yeah and yellow fever is a real illness. Man, once you are hooked...
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:59 PM   #114
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No, no and yes.

No to religion. I have a hard time picturing myself and my family at a Jewish wedding. Same with any other culture that isn't my own. I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school all my life.......didn't really do much for me and now, I'm an atheist if you had to put a label on me. I just don't really care to waste my time on religion. Having said all that, I would want my wedding to be at a catholic church. I know, it sounds ridiculous and stupid. Believe me, I know. I just always pictured my wedding that way and everyone one of my friends and family have done it the same way. EVERY ONE!!! If I were to fall madly in love with a jewish girl and she had to do the wedding the jewish way, I would have some major problems with that, but I dont know how I would ultimately decide. I would have to wait and see.

I don't find asian chicks attractive, I think black girls are pretty hideous(looking and attitude for the most part) and brown chicks have a few exceptions, but for the most part don't do anything for me. I can't forsee myself ever getting seriously involved with an East Indian.....it just wont happen. If I were to bring an Asian chick home, oh man.....the family would not be happy. I was always kind of told to marry your own kind.(I'm Portuguese and Croatian....so pretty old school European values) And that upbringin has stuck with me all my life.

Don't really care what team a chick likes. Dont really like girls who are hardcore sports fans. The last thing I want is talk about is the Flames power play with my wife.



Those are my beliefs, disagree all you want.....it wont bother me at all.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:41 PM   #115
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I'm surprised at the number of people who said they aren't attracted to people outside of their own race. I don't think that is a racist thing, but speaking as a white male, I find the women I am most attracted to are NOT white.
I'm the same way. I love me some brownies (East Indian/Latin) and starting to catch some yellow fever. And of course I'm love my white sisters, but the women that I'm least attracted to seems to be black women. I'm really picky when it comes to them.
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I'm surprised at the number of people who said they aren't attracted to people outside of their own race. I don't think that is a racist thing, but speaking as a white male, I find the women I am most attracted to are NOT white.
I know several white guys who will not date white women. They just aren't attracted to them at all.

I used to love Latin guys. Now, not so much. But foreign guys (including Canadians) and what some may refer to as "Okie" farm boys from the Midwestern US...yes.
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I know several white guys who will not date white women. They just aren't attracted to them at all.
They're called homosexuals.
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They're called homosexuals.
Who would date a day-glo green guy?


But it is always kinda funny to hear "Nah I don't date white chicks. Too spoiled and they don't like sex." Hmmmmm. I know that doesn't apply to all guys who aren't attracted to white women. It just kinda cracks me up.
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No one.
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Another race? Well, 3 of my last 4 relationships have been with black women. And I find asian women very attractive. So why not?

As a Pastafarian, marrying into another religion would be difficult for me. But if she shares the flimsy moral standards and can talk like a pirate, I guess that would be okay.

And a different hockey team.... well.... so long as she's not a Rangers fan.
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