Kanye West

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

that makes him racist?
I was assuming people were referring to something more then that.

he did say this apparently....dont know if this qualifies as a racist comment, but it sure as hell is ignorant.

And the singer has caused a stir again in the January issue of Essence magazine by commenting on bi-racial babies. He says, "If it wasn't for race mixing there'd be no video girls. Me and most of our friends like mutts a lot. Yeah, in the hood we call 'em mutts!"

It cant be said enough...dude is a complete and total ######bag.

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[Montana Moe]

I'd have to do some research to find the source of the quote, but I know he said he doesn't give a damn about his white fans.

Not that that would make him a racist, just adds to the ###### quotient...

[CaptainCrunch]

Man, I've just looked at his lyrics for songs like We Don't Care, and graduation day, glad to see that he lives up to every single racial stereotype that comes from Rap.

To say that he comes across as a moron is an understatement.

Total garbage.

Hopefully this will start his eventual fadeaway until he desperately turns to reality T.V. shows to pay his bills.

[burn_this_city]

People actually listen to these talentless hacks? I'm sorry but rap music only "spoke" to me when I was 13-17. If you're over 25 still listening to this garbage its time for a CAT scan.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

People actually listen to these talentless hacks? I'm sorry but rap music only "spoke" to me when I was 13-17. If you're over 25 still listening to this garbage its time for a CAT scan.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

People actually listen to these talentless hacks? I'm sorry but rap music only "spoke" to me when I was 13-17. If you're over 25 still listening to this garbage its time for a CAT scan.

That's ridiculous. There is all sorts of talented people in rap, just like any genre of music.
I don't think I'll ever stop listening to rap music, not at 25, not 35 and likely not even 55. A true music fan can appreciate that different genres offer different things, and within any genre is good, great and crap.

[Rhetts_the_Best]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

And because he's got talent.

Talent????

You mean the ability he has of writing "top notch" lyrics?
Or singing out of a processed microphone and using tone effects that give an average tone deaf hack millions of dollars.


I agree that many of the rap artists today are talented.
But Kanye is not one of talented ones.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

People actually listen to these talentless hacks? I'm sorry but rap music only "spoke" to me when I was 13-17. If you're over 25 still listening to this garbage its time for a CAT scan.

So you now listen to adult contemporary, right?
Nothing says maturity like Celine Dion and Michael Bolton.

[TurnedTheCorner]

[transplant99]

A true music fan can appreciate that different genres offer different things, and within any genre is good, great and crap

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This is the one question i have about "rap" though...where is the music? Is there music? Where are the instuments, the abilities beyond ryhming anything and everything?

Serious question.

[TurnedTheCorner]

You have producers and engineers who mix it - choose the samples, choose the drums, choose the other instruments and arrangements (bass lines, keyboards, horn sections, string sections, whatever). Some of it can as simple as drum tracks and looping samples. But in most hip hop music these days there is more to it.

Add in a DJ if you have edits/scratches/mixes, too.

And then the delivery of the rhyme schemes has rhythm, cadence and musical elements to it as well.

[Bibtin Tex]

I <3 Kanye

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Igottago

So you now listen to adult contemporary, right?
Nothing says maturity like Celine Dion and Michael Bolton.

Ha no. I like hard rock and alternative.

Listen, if you need to feel like a gangster go for it. Its just funny as hell to most other people who think you're a nerd. I'll ask this question to all the rap fans. What part of the music do you relate to? Is it just the soundtrack you enjoy or the actual lyrics? Sadly I dont relate to the repeatitive themes of violence, drugs, and ignorance. In the event you havent noticed its been the exact same material for the last 20 years.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I listen to music specifically chosen to ensure other people don't laugh at me, personally. That would be awful, to think that other people think that I'm a nerd and my taste in music doesn't match their perceptions of me. Especially if they don't know me. That's the deepest cut of all.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

You have producers and engineers who mix it - choose the samples, choose the drums, choose the other instruments and arrangements (bass lines, keyboards, horn sections, string sections, whatever). Some of it can as simple as drum tracks and looping samples. But in most hip hop music these days there is more to it.

Add in a DJ if you have edits/scratches/mixes, too.

And then the delivery of the rhyme schemes has rhythm, cadence and musical elements to it as well.

So in other words when they're not sampling the work of other artists that write their own music, they're using canned tracks.

I just have a hard time respecting the lyrics of a genre where a large porting glorifies violence and drug dealing and punching up your ho.

Rap has a huge influence on our youth and therefore it has somewhat of a responsibility to not over sell the messages of violence that we often see.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Ha no. I like hard rock and alternative.

Listen, if you need to feel like a gangster go for it. Its just funny as hell to most other people who think you're a nerd. I'll ask this question to all the rap fans. What part of the music do you relate to? Is it just the soundtrack you enjoy or the actual lyrics? Sadly I dont relate to the repeatitive themes of violence, drugs, and ignorance. In the event you havent noticed its been the exact same material for the last 20 years.

That's not what all rap is about. I personally like the music, how the sampling fits in and punchlines.

All metal and alternative is about being a morose complainer and trying to sound either like Vedder or Cobain.

Listen, if you want to feel like a down on society long haired unkempt banger go for it. The funny as hell thing applies to the other side as well. As well as the stereotypes of people who listen to certain music.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by transplant99

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This is the one question i have about "rap" though...where is the music? Is there music? Where are the instuments, the abilities beyond ryhming anything and everything?

Serious question.

Personally, I don't think think you have to have instruments to have music, and do consider well constructed computer beats to be music. Whether this be rap, electronic or anything else. Half of the "rock" music most of us listen to these days is full of computer samples and loops too, but no one seems to ever question if that is music. No one questions if Pavarotti was a musician, but I don't think he did anything but vocals either.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I'm not going to undo years of generalizing and stereotyping about hip hop's messages, so I'm not going to try to.

But there is original music going into hip hop. Everything contributed is not a canned track - there's always going to be specific arrangements and melodies added at times. It might not be a huge part of the track, but to dismiss it all as sampled and canned is unfair.

[Crispy's Critter]

Originally Posted by Bibtin Tex

I <3 Kanye

you teabag Kanye?

seriously, if it wasn't for the South Park episode I'd have no idea this asshat even existed.

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