08-20-2009, 12:43 AM
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#241
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Originally Posted by bcb
"A right is a right is a right"
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Yep 100 years ago its a right to give your wife a smack up side of the head if dinner wasn't ready as well. And in Saudi it's a right to have your wife whiped for talking to another man in public and stoned to death for cheating on you.!!
But "A right is a right is a right" 
Last edited by T@T; 08-20-2009 at 12:48 AM.
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08-20-2009, 03:19 AM
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#242
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Basement Chicken Choker
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In a land without pants, or war, or want. But mostly we care about the pants.
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There was a guy wearing an NRA t-shirt in the Mac's in front of me this evening; the shirt said something like "It's not an opinion - it's a RIGHT!", and then had a picture of some kind of handgun under the slogan.
I was going to tell him he looks like an idiot walking around in Canada wearing a shirt that doesn't apply here, but then I remembered he was probably carrying and would throw down as soon as look at me, and instead I just paid for my slushie, left, went out to the car, got the tire iron out of the trunk, and waylaid him as he tried to step up into his giant 4X4 with the Confederate flag in the window.
Now I'm going to get a custom t-shirt of my own:
"Guns don't kill people:
Tire irons wielded by psychopaths kill people."
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08-20-2009, 04:05 AM
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#243
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
I suggest you read a US History book sometime. They actually had to FIGHT for their independence, they didnt just let some oppressive British regime run them into the ground and then negotiate their peaceful release. There is a reason its a constitutional right. Because the founding fathers in their wisdom knew that everyone who has power, will at some point try to use that power against those not in power. And those not in power need some way to fight back, in the US that is by private citizens owning assault rifles among other things.
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Personally, I am partial to the position taken in this quote from Thomas Jefferson, as displayed in the Jefferson memorial in Washington.
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08-20-2009, 05:41 AM
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#244
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T@T
Yep 100 years ago its a right to give your wife a smack up side of the head if dinner wasn't ready as well. And in Saudi it's a right to have your wife whiped for talking to another man in public and stoned to death for cheating on you.!!
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Neither of your above examples are entrenched into the US constitution. The Bill of Rights specifically makes allowances for citizens to carry guns. So in that sense, the right remains timeless.
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08-20-2009, 09:42 AM
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#246
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by bcb
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Nutjobs like Pat Buchannon and Tucker Carlson still think so.
Nutjobs: Every country has them. Stop generalizing.
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A lot of it has to with the sheer ignorance the US has of Canada. I was once asked in Seattle by a US citizen if we had the internet in Canada. Seattle! The huge city which only a few hundred kilometres from Vancouver.
Is this representative of most people from Seattle, or are you basing an entire country's reputation on 1 uninformed person?
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They rip our more effective health care system, taxation but have no idea Canada's population is made up of 16% VISIBLE minorities.
Many people rip taxation.
What is the percentage of VISIBLE minorities in the US?
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and iconic global companies like Cirque du Soleil and RIM.
There was a MacLean's article on Cirque a couple of weeks ago. Read it. You might feel differently.
A hand held device is not a national icon, silly
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Funny, I don't recall stating that the US is the only nation on earth with morons. I'd much rather watch a liberal-biased news network like CBC that actually reports the news than crap like republican-leaning CNN and their 12 hours of twitter and email readings from Bob in Alabama each day.
I don't ever recall stating that everyone in Seattle questions whether we have the internet in Canada. You wouldn't find one Canadian doubting whether the US has the internet, Blackberries or telephones. Nor would they doubt that people in Argentina have the internet.
I can clearly see you like to generalize my post, because I never stated the US didn't have ethnic diversity. I simply stated they are clueless as to the ethnic makeup of their northern neighbours. They have no idea of the cultural mosaic we live in here in Canada.
And MacLeans is a Canadian magazine, how is a Canadian magazine article on Canadian companies going to inform people in the US? It don't exactly get the distribution TIME does.
And lastly, a handheld device can be a national icon, just like Wayne, the maple leaf, the mounties (for better or worse lately) and beer. How is that different from applie pie and badly made cars no one wants to buy in the US?
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^^PS, and could someone tell this uninformed Canadian how to use the damn quote button!???!
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You do realize those ^^^ were pointing to your own post, right? So you must be talking about yourself not knowing how to quote. My quote was one solid, continuous quote, no error on my part.
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08-20-2009, 09:42 AM
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#247
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by bcb
Neither of your above examples are entrenched into the US constitution. The Bill of Rights specifically makes allowances for citizens to carry guns. So in that sense, the right remains timeless.
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There is no right in the US Constitution to bear guns, you can bear arms but not guns. Furthermore, the interpretation of liberal constructionist like Scalia is ridiculous, either the right is entrenched and timeless as of the time it was written in the late 18th century, or it is a right that is in place to allow the citizenry to defend itself against the tyranny of the state, in which case you should be allowed to accumulate all of the weapons that the state has. But to have judges sitting and deciding what is an arm and what is not must drive Conservatives crazy.
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08-20-2009, 09:46 AM
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#248
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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..........and shooting himself with it in a night club. Not bright at all...
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08-20-2009, 09:47 AM
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#249
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
..........and shooting himself with it in a night club. Not bright at all...
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Get of Burress' back. I'm sure he was just taking target practice in the club, it's his god given right as a US citizen. There is nothing wrong with bringing weapons to crowded night clubs. What could possibly go wrong in public when people do that?
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08-20-2009, 09:53 AM
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#250
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
Thanks Mikey! You just provided the clearest explanation as to why Canadians are so concerned about how easy it is for anyone to buy a gun in the US. Even legally purchased weapons bought in the US can be illegally smuggled into Canada.
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Many things get stolen. Illegal gun smuggling rings (organized crime) are a bit of a different animal than farmer Joe going down town to buy a target shooting/hunting rifle.
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08-20-2009, 11:19 AM
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#251
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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I'm sure he was just taking target practice in the club, it's his god given right as a US citizen.
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No...he was in a nightclub with an illegal weapon.....otherwise you would be right, but you aren't.
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There is nothing wrong with bringing weapons to crowded night clubs
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Yes there is...thats kind of why he is going to prison.
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What could possibly go wrong in public when people do that?
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The criminals go to jail....what part of that cant you wrap your head around?
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08-20-2009, 12:37 PM
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#252
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Originally Posted by Cactus Jack
Funny, I don't recall stating that the US is the only nation on earth with morons. I'd much rather watch a liberal-biased news network like CBC that actually reports the news than crap like republican-leaning CNN and their 12 hours of twitter and email readings from Bob in Alabama each day.
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Larf. Really?
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08-20-2009, 12:39 PM
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#253
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Account Disabled at User's Request
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I always thought green text was kind of a joke but apparently its a necessity.
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08-20-2009, 01:35 PM
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#254
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First Line Centre
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I can't tell if I should have put my last post in green or if Transplant should have! haha
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08-20-2009, 02:56 PM
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#256
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Originally Posted by Byrns
Nothing wrong with guns.
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I'd inspect her chamber.
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08-20-2009, 03:59 PM
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#257
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Disenfranchised
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Originally Posted by jammies
... I was going to tell him he looks like an idiot walking around in Canada wearing a shirt that doesn't apply here, but then I remembered he was probably carrying and would throw down as soon as look at me, and instead I just paid for my slushie, left, went out to the car, got the tire iron out of the trunk, and waylaid him as he tried to step up into his giant 4X4 with the Confederate flag in the window.
Now I'm going to get a custom t-shirt of my own:
"Guns don't kill people:
Tire irons wielded by psychopaths kill people."
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Were you wearing your "FREEMAN OF THE LAND" t-shirt? Did you pay for your slurpee with an old Certs wrapper and an expired CTrain ticket?
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08-20-2009, 05:45 PM
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#258
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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The gun was registered to Burris but he moved to New York and the Dummy didn't know New York has a VERY strict concealed weapons law, he could have got 10 years.
I wonder when other citys will follow this strict stance?
Gun related murders last year by city:
Detroit (metro)
Population 993,000
Gun related murders = 307
3.1 per 100k
Philadelphia (metro)
Population 1,450,000
Gun related murders = 336
2.3 per 100k
Los Angeles (county)
Population 3,610,000
Gun related murders = 677 (LA has more murders than Aid victims and traffic deaths combined) 
1.9 per 100k
New York (metro)
Population 7,940,000
Gun related murders = 294
0.04 per 100k
It's obvious to me the threat in NY is working!
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08-20-2009, 05:49 PM
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#259
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Originally Posted by T@T
The gun was registered to Burris but he moved to New York and the Dummy didn't know New York has a VERY strict concealed weapons law, he could have got 10 years.
I wonder when other citys will follow this strict stance?
Gun related murders last year by city:
Detroit (metro)
Population 993,000
Gun related murders = 307
3.1 per 100k
Philadelphia (metro)
Population 1,450,000
Gun related murders = 336
2.3 per 100k
Los Angeles (county)
Population 3,610,000
Gun related murders = 677 (LA has more murders than Aid victims and traffic deaths combined)
1.9 per 100k
New York (metro)
Population 7,940,000
Gun related murders = 294
0.04 per 100k
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Interesting. Do you have the website for those stats? Does it have D.C. or more California cities available?
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08-20-2009, 05:58 PM
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#260
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Had an idea!
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He should also post the stats from Washington DC since they banned handguns, and then unbanned them. If they have.
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