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Old 08-03-2009, 08:17 PM   #41
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Oh please. Maybe because proclaiming pride in your skin colour is stupid? There hasn't been a day in my life I have woken up and thought "god I am so proud to be a caucasian!"
I completely agree. If Black people had done those unspeakable evils in America to white people, then white people would have a reason to start white rights advocacy groups that campaign for equal rights, or white pride events that serve to show people that white people are equal and proud of who they are despite a history of society marginalizing them and humiliating them, and making it the law that they are sub-human and do not deserve equality.

White people - as a whole - in America simply have not suffered the way Black people have. No one is stopping you (or shaming you) from being proud of your ancestral heritage, but it is extremely repulsive to me when people ignorantly say there is no need for rights and advocacy organizations and pride events for black people, gay people, jewish people, or any other group of people that have suffered, and continue to suffer injustices in society.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:22 PM   #42
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Unless they're transplanted from the south. Which a lot of people are....but I doubt its these folks.

There are a lot of rednecks in Alberta....I guess they think this flag symbolizes their way of life.
We have a lot of transplants from the south in these parts? I don't think I've ever met a single one.

Anyone flying a Confederate flag in Alberta is a moron.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:02 PM   #43
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We have a lot of transplants from the south in these parts? I don't think I've ever met a single one.

Anyone flying a Confederate flag in Alberta is a moron.
I never said there were a lot of them, but I know there are some.

Have you met every single person in Alberta?
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:12 PM   #44
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I completely agree. If Black people had done those unspeakable evils in America to white people, then white people would have a reason to start white rights advocacy groups that campaign for equal rights, or white pride events that serve to show people that white people are equal and proud of who they are despite a history of society marginalizing them and humiliating them, and making it the law that they are sub-human and do not deserve equality.

White people - as a whole - in America simply have not suffered the way Black people have. No one is stopping you (or shaming you) from being proud of your ancestral heritage, but it is extremely repulsive to me when people ignorantly say there is no need for rights and advocacy organizations and pride events for black people, gay people, jewish people, or any other group of people that have suffered, and continue to suffer injustices in society.
It's easy to blame whites all the time, but blacks, jews, asians, etc are just as racist and xenophobic as whitey. Every group has their own stereotypes, and they don't just go away because their ancestors were oppressed.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:39 PM   #45
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Oh please. Maybe because proclaiming pride in your skin colour is stupid? There hasn't been a day in my life I have woken up and thought "god I am so proud to be a caucasian!"
Really? I thank my stars every single day I was born white.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:45 PM   #46
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Unless they're transplanted from the south. Which a lot of people are....but I doubt its these folks.
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I never said there were a lot of them, but I know there are some.
Come on now.

ANYWAY, the clowns who drive around with a Confederate flag in Alberta aren't doing it for southern pride or to announce their admiration for General Lee, they are doing it as not-so-subtle way of saying "I'm a redneck and I have certain opinions about the colour of some folks skin, and I'm proud of it".
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I bet 90% of these people in Canada flying that flag, just think it's a cool looking flag! Or are relating it to the General Lee (The Car), and have absolutely no idea what it stands for or what it's supposed to stand for.
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It's easy to blame whites all the time, but blacks, jews, asians, etc are just as racist and xenophobic as whitey. Every group has their own stereotypes, and they don't just go away because their ancestors were oppressed.
I am not saying racism is isolated to one specific group, I am saying that society has put up barriers for certain minority groups. These organizations that fight to eliminate these barriers are not anti-white, anti-straight, or anti-christian, they are simply trying to eliminate those barriers, and help alleviate the disparity that those barriers caused.
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Come on now.

ANYWAY, the clowns who drive around with a Confederate flag in Alberta aren't doing it for southern pride or to announce their admiration for General Lee, they are doing it as not-so-subtle way of saying "I'm a redneck and I have certain opinions about the colour of some folks skin, and I'm proud of it".
This is probably the most correct answer. Sadly.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:11 PM   #50
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I bet 90% of these people in Canada flying that flag, just think it's a cool looking flag! Or are relating it to the General Lee (The Car), and have absolutely no idea what it stands for or what it's supposed to stand for.

Oh c'mon.
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The blacks are not being held back by lingering racism as much as they are being held back by their own culture. Broken homes,booze,drugs,domestic violence, and the mentality that they are owed something by society has caused them to be left in a cycle of failed generations. Just compare them to the Hispanics. Hispanics are just as likely to experience racial profiling and discrimination as blacks and yet they are rapidly succeeding in all areas of American society. Before the Hispanics were the Italians and before the Italians were the Irish. All started out poor and on the outside looking in and all climbed that mountain and claimed their American dream. I realize the later three didn't start out as slaves but, neither did any black in American today.

My point is that black America isn't being given any favours by being treated like a spoiled baby who just skinned their knee. They need to pick themselves up, ignore the pain, and make their own way.
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:06 PM   #52
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My point is that black America isn't being given any favours by being treated like a spoiled baby who just skinned their knee. They need to pick themselves up, ignore the pain, and make their own way.
Totally. The only reason Obama is president is because his dad was the president. The only reason he went to Harvard was because his dad got him into the school. He had a free pass through life, he needs to make his own way!

Wait, I may be thinking of the wrong guy!
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The blacks are not being held back by lingering racism as much as they are being held back by their own culture. Broken homes,booze,drugs,domestic violence, and the mentality that they are owed something by society has caused them to be left in a cycle of failed generations. Just compare them to the Hispanics. Hispanics are just as likely to experience racial profiling and discrimination as blacks and yet they are rapidly succeeding in all areas of American society. Before the Hispanics were the Italians and before the Italians were the Irish. All started out poor and on the outside looking in and all climbed that mountain and claimed their American dream. I realize the later three didn't start out as slaves but, neither did any black in American today.

My point is that black America isn't being given any favours by being treated like a spoiled baby who just skinned their knee. They need to pick themselves up, ignore the pain, and make their own way.
There are no words for how stupid this post is. Congratulations on painting with as broad a brush stroke as possible.

Edit: I shouldn't say stupid. Ignorant, elitist and out of touch with reality. Fox News is missing a correspondent

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There are no words for how stupid this post is. Congratulations on painting with as broad a brush stroke as possible.
And don't even get him started on abortions!
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There are no words for how stupid this post is. Congratulations on painting with as broad a brush stroke as possible.

Edit: I shouldn't say stupid. Ignorant, elitist and out of touch with reality. Fox News is missing a correspondent
There are some prominent black leaders who agree with him.
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There are no words for how stupid this post is. Congratulations on painting with as broad a brush stroke as possible.
Obviously I was painting with a broad brush. There are blacks that are successful and people of other ethnic groups(including whites) who blame the world for everything that is wrong in their lives. But what I said is generally true. It's time the black community looked to themselves instead of blaming white America for their failures.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:19 AM   #57
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I never said there were a lot of them, but I know there are some.

Have you met every single person in Alberta?
I don't know any "transplants", and I also do not see any Confederate flags down here around Lethbridge.

I don't have one of these flags, and I dont know what they mean anyways.......I blame the Dukes of Hazzard movie, I bet it made these flags cool again.....
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It's easy to blame whites all the time, but blacks, jews, asians, etc are just as racist and xenophobic as whitey. Every group has their own stereotypes, and they don't just go away because their ancestors were oppressed.
Racism is not about having stereotypes or even being a jerk towards other people based on outward characteristics; that's discrimination.

Racism is about the systematic oppression of a people based on ethnicity. It absolutely requires that one group be more socially powerful than another group for it to exist. This is why the statement "reverse racism" is meaningless.

Black people can't be racist. They can be discriminatory jerks, but they can't be racist.
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So an individual can't be racist?

Or and individual who isn't a discriminatory jerk can be racist just by existing under certain circumstances?
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There's a sign on Highway 23, just North of Lethbridge for:

Kendra's
Kountry
Kennels

What were they thinking?
There's also KK's Kitchen in Cochrane. But it's a Chinese restaurant, so maybe it was an honest mistake.
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