Kate plus 8 and Jon plus 8 every second weekend

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by peter12

Well, I don't really know or care. It just seems kind of weird for a newly divorced dad of 30 something to be bringing home a 23 year old. Doesn't say a lot for stability or his own personal ethics. But whatever.

So is the age gap unethical? There is 14 years between my parents and I don't have a problem with that.

[worth]

I occasionally watch American Chopper and I saw the one where they did the bike for Jon, and that was my first experience into that show, and man, I must say, I don't know how that dude could have gone on living like that. Like wft man, grow a friggin spine. She does nothing but whine and complain and he just mopes around and doesn't say anything. What a disaster family.

PS, I should stop watching american chopper because that show is bunk now as well. Ohhh the drama! Just build bikes fer christ sakes. I do not care about your mental break down or your lingere store or whatever.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by worth

PS, I should stop watching american chopper because that show is bunk now as well. Ohhh the drama! Just build bikes fer christ sakes. I do not care about your mental break down or your lingere store or whatever.

I agree. The first season or two was worthwhile, Paul Sr. and Jr. are at their dysfunctional best there, and didn't play it up all that much yet.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by J pold

Remind me again why anybody cares about these ridiculous human beings?

The only people worse than these two clowns are the people who follow their every move, giving them the undeserved spotlight and validating their pathetic celebrity status.

"By stating an inflammatory opinion that will smack in the face of most of the people in this thread I prove how cool and hardcore I am.

My angry opinion will win me friends on the internet by proving how edgy I am thus showing people my brooding, devil-may-care, rockstar-esque persona!"

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

"By stating an inflammatory opinion that will smack in the face of most of the people in this thread I prove how cool and hardcore I am.

My angry opinion will win me friends on the internet by proving how edgy I am thus showing people my brooding, devil-may-care, rockstar-esque persona!"

If condoning the exploitation of a family, and expressing my disappointment in anyone who considers said exploitation as means of there own personal entertainment makes me "hardcore" or gives me an "rockstar-esque personal" so be it.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by J pold

If condoning the exploitation of a family, and expressing my disappointment in anyone who considers said exploitation as means of there own personal entertainment makes me "hardcore" or gives me an "rockstar-esque personal" so be it.

People following this family are trying to point out the explotation this family is doing to thier kids. Not everyone views that show as entertainment.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by J pold

If condoning the exploitation of a family, and expressing my disappointment in anyone who considers said exploitation as means of there own personal entertainment makes me "hardcore" or gives me an "rockstar-esque personal" so be it.

The bull**** and holier-than-thou attitude smeared all throughout your post is almost sickening.

Originally Posted by J pold

Sad that I know about this, my roommate loves this show and keeps me updated weather I like it or not.

Let me say this, Kate is hot.

Yeah, you sure care about the "exploitation" of these people, don't you? You crusader, you!

"Well they're being taken advantage of, and their personal lives are being ripped apart by the media... I'd totally do her anyways!"

The only exploitation that has happened in regards to this show, is you exploiting their current situation to make yourself look better after getting called out on being an ass. You sure didn't seem to care anything about it before then.

Well done.

Edit- as pointed out by Dion above, some people are following this for different reasons. Did they exploit their kids? Likely, but those kids are likely set for life because of it (I certainly hope they are, anyways).

[4X4]

Originally Posted by peter12

Well, I don't really know or care. It just seems kind of weird for a newly divorced dad of 30 something to be bringing home a 23 year old. Doesn't say a lot for stability or his own personal ethics. But whatever.

What's wrong with 23? According to Wikipedia, he's 32. Is nine years really that big of a deal? It's not like he's 20 and she's 11. I don't get why you're bringing up personal ethics with regards to an age difference.

An adult is an adult. I really think it's time that society stops attaching a stigma to relationships with an age gap. Especially one that's only nine years.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Dion

Divorce papers have been filed. Do you expect Jon to stay single for the rest of his life?

His marriage with Kate is over and he's moving on with his life.

I agree. Let the guy get on with his life. Good luck to him.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Dion

People following this family are trying to point out the explotation this family is doing to thier kids. Not everyone views that show as entertainment.

What other purpose does it serve other than entertainment? It hardly holds any educational value and I fail to see how watching it is pointing out the exploitation. If the show has no viewers than there isn't any show and thus no exploitation.

Originally Posted by Blaster86

The bull**** and holier-than-thou attitude smeared all throughout your post is almost sickening.

No. what's sickening is that people choose to emerse themselves in the diveril that the show has become.

Yeah, you sure care about the "exploitation" of these people, don't you? You crusader, you!

"Well they're being taken advantage of, and their personal lives are being ripped apart by the media... I'd totally do her anyways!"

I don't really care about the exloitation of these two, they signed up for this garabage so now they have to lay in it. My heart goes out to the childern. Oh and please don't put words in my mouth in an attempt to make me look like the bad guy for choosing not to watch this awful television show.

The only exploitation that has happened in regards to this show, is you exploiting their current situation to make yourself look better after getting called out on being an ass. You sure didn't seem to care anything about it before then.

Yes it's my I'm the bad guy here, I'm the one doing the exploiting by condoning, and refusing to watch the show, right.

Well done.

Edit- as pointed out by Dion above, some people are following this for different reasons. Did they exploit their kids? Likely, but those kids are likely set for life because of it (I certainly hope they are, anyways).

What other reasons are there to watch the show other than entertinament?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by J pold

What other purpose does it serve other than entertainment? It hardly holds any educational value and I fail to see how watching it is pointing out the exploitation. If the show has no viewers than there isn't any show and thus no exploitation.

If nobody watched it how would anyone know the children are being exploited?

"I can confirm that our bureau of labor law compliance is conducting an investigation as they do whenever they receive a charge," said Christopher Manlove, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania Department of Labor and Industry.

Manlove would not say who filed the complaint, when it was filed or what the exact allegations are. "Because the case is ongoing I can't discuss the content of the investigation," he said.

http://www.people.com/people/article...281956,00.html

[peter12]

Originally Posted by 4X4

What's wrong with 23? According to Wikipedia, he's 32. Is nine years really that big of a deal? It's not like he's 20 and she's 11. I don't get why you're bringing up personal ethics with regards to an age difference.

An adult is an adult. I really think it's time that society stops attaching a stigma to relationships with an age gap. Especially one that's only nine years.

I have no problem with the age, just the fact that he goes for her so soon kind of shows where he has placed his priorities.

[4X4]

Oh. Well your post seemed to indicate otherwise.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Oh. Well your post seemed to indicate otherwise.

Well now we all know and everyone is better for it.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by peter12

I have no problem with the age, just the fact that he goes for her so soon kind of shows where he has placed his priorities.

For me this is just as bad as saying there can only be a certain age gap. Why must there be a waiting period? It's not like the love of his life died in some sort of accident; the relationship had been getting worse and worse for a while. He could easily have been "done" with the marriage months ago, but stayed faithful while the marriage was still in effect.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ken0042

For me this is just as bad as saying there can only be a certain age gap. Why must there be a waiting period? It's not like the love of his life died in some sort of accident; the relationship had been getting worse and worse for a while. He could easily have been "done" with the marriage months ago, but stayed faithful while the marriage was still in effect.

No, it's totally true. I guess I just don't care either way. I think I was attempting to muster up some moral outrage to fit in or something.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by peter12

No, it's totally true. I guess I just don't care either way. I think I was attempting to muster up some moral outrage to fit in or something.

I think this might be the first time in the history of the internet that someone admitted this. Well done, pete.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I think this might be the first time in the history of the internet that someone admitted this. Well done, pete.

For some reason, the clarity is shining through the clouds of internet rage today.