Meth Clinic Run Out Of Town

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by Tower

These people need assistance. If they ask for help we as a community should help them. Positive actions lead to positive reaction.

Yes, the community as a whole should help people who need assistance. The city of calgary is the community. This clinic should be in a place that has easy access and for the good of the community not be near schools or children. That is just good thinking for the children in the community. It is a no brainer. I do not understand why some people just don't get it.

[Knalus]

The more I think about it, the more I would be worried to live next to people who willingly form mobs and run people out of town. The threats these residents made to the people who run a medical clinic make me far more nervous than the clinic itself - which at first I agreed did not belong there. Is this what I can expect my neighbors to act like? To feel justified and good about the fact that they can get their way if they form a mob and threaten people?

[ken0042]

There was an interesting piece on Global last night that they replayed from a June broadcast about one of the clinic's clients. Just your average dad, who had surgery, then complications. Along the road to recovery he became addicted to prescription pain killers.

I wonder if maybe a newer community would be better laid out to allow this type of place to operate. I'm thinking of Copperfield; where our retail/ doctor office strip mall is slightly outside of the residential part of the community. Or even if the clinic gets established before a school is built; it could be accepted better.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by getbak

How near is "near"? It's a relatively short walk from where this clinic is to Pump Hill, and anyone taking a bus to the clinic would ride right past Pump Hill.

I grew up in Braeside and walked to John Ware Jr. High every day, which is right next to Pump Hill (we used to walk through Pump Hill during our lunch hours to check out the mansions).

In fact, I'd bet that more people in Braeside live closer to Pump Hill than they do to this clinic.

What is your point? There is a difference in between allowing addicts to go through your neighbourhood and purposely concentrating them.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by ken0042

There was an interesting piece on Global last night that they replayed from a June broadcast about one of the clinic's clients. Just your average dad, who had surgery, then complications. Along the road to recovery he became addicted to prescription pain killers.

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This kind of patient is not the issue. It is the patients who have a criminal past. People who have court appointed methadone. The higher risk patients.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by ken0042

There was an interesting piece on Global last night that they replayed from a June broadcast about one of the clinic's clients. Just your average dad, who had surgery, then complications. Along the road to recovery he became addicted to prescription pain killers.

I wonder if maybe a newer community would be better laid out to allow this type of place to operate. I'm thinking of Copperfield; where our retail/ doctor office strip mall is slightly outside of the residential part of the community. Or even if the clinic gets established before a school is built; it could be accepted better.

If this kid represented the entirety of the drug community there would be no problems.

[Bunk]

What's a "meth clinic"? It's methadone, not a purveryor of Crystal Meth, which is what most people associate with that word.

[The Yen Man]

Nice. When I hear about the Nimby's in this story, all I picture are people branding pitchforks and torches and storming towards the Methadone clinic looking to dish out some good ol vigilante justice.

[Kipper is King]

Originally Posted by Knalus

The threats these residents made to the people who run a medical clinic make me far more nervous than the clinic itself

A "medical clinic" IMO is something people go to when they are sick (by something natural generally) or injured, but IMO a drug addiction is a kind of sickness which is beyond that realm because it alters one's mental state.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Kipper is King

A "medical clinic" IMO is something people go to when they are sick (by something natural generally) or injured, but IMO a drug addiction is a kind of sickness which is beyond that realm because it alters one's mental state.

So those suffering from, let's go with Alzheimer's, don't go to "medical clinics"?

[Huntingwhale]

I live near this clinic in Braeside (well I live in Woodbine but I still use that mall quite often). To those concerned about the drug dealers, crackheads and criminals hanging around there, STFU. First off, there is a POLICE OFFICE right beside the clinic. RIGHT BESIDE IT. And if crime and ruffians is your real concern, maybe you should complain about the calgary housing units just down the street in Oakridge. I know of plenty more crack dealers and thieves who live just down the street.

[flamingreen]

Originally Posted by Kipper is King

A "medical clinic" IMO is something people go to when they are sick (by something natural generally) or injured, but IMO a drug addiction is a kind of sickness which is beyond that realm because it alters one's mental state.

Huh? Since when is the brain's reaction to these drugs not part of someone's natural state?

[ken0042]

I think what he was saying is that it is easier to have less sympathy for somebody who became a drug adict as opposed to somebody who has some other mental illness; especially if that drug was not something that was obtained legally.

[Dion]

In Red Deer, 180 patients are served in an anonymous bungalow on a downtown street with a mix of businesses and homes.

Neighbouring businesses unconcerned

Diane Anderson, who works at a travel agency nearby, said she was appalled when she heard about the Calgary clinic's plans to close. Opponents must not know anything about methadone clinics, she said.

"They're afraid that their children are going to be influenced somehow. They are afraid they are going to find used syringes in the gutter, they are going to find broken bottles, they are going to find rubby-dubs. I don't know what they think, but it's just not true. We see people from all walks going in there."

"Put yourself in that situation and you're trying to get help. Why are you being condemned for that?" added co-worker Linda Simpson.

At another business, Tim Wright, said he doesn't have much to say about the clinic. "They don't bother us too much and we don't really notice it," he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...-red-deer.html

[Kipper is King]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I think what he was saying is that it is easier to have less sympathy for somebody who became a drug adict as opposed to somebody who has some other mental illness; especially if that drug was not something that was obtained legally.

Ken hit the nail on the head. I realize I did not phrase that well.

[Boblobla]

New lease on life for methadone clinic?

A controversial methadone clinic could stay in Calgary after all. Ward 11 Alderman Brian Pincott says he will ask council to create a new policy to deal with agencies like the Second Chance Recovery clinic.
Hundreds of people packed into a community hall in Braeside to protest the clinic when they learned it had opened in a strip mall.
Pincott says involving public consultation earlier can help remove some of the fears of residents.
The new policy would allow methadone clinics to set up in light industrial areas.
The clinic is still operating in Braeside on a day-to-day basis.
Pincott's policy goes before council on July 27 but even if it is approved it could be months before it is implemented.

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

[North East Goon]

I fail to see how this is different than having Liquor stores in every strip mall all over the city? You have drunks hanging out at these constantly bugging people for change.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

New lease on life for methadone clinic?




http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

I see somebody at silly hall reads CP.
Thats exactly what a lot of us have been saying.