Back yard fire pits

[Old Yeller]

Originally Posted by DESS

It is ######ed they are allowed. Thankfully most people never use them if they have them, but for the dopes that do...FRACK YOU!!! They are stinky and they attract white trash like flies to crap. Go camping if you want to behave like a caveman.

Did your morning pedicure get cancelled?




I have an above ground portable fire pit. It's great and used often by myself and the neighbors in the summer... in fact it's a great way for all the neighbors to get together. Plus everybody is drinking so if the fire happens to get out of hand there's plenty of mostly non flammable liquid around.

[Methanolic]

Interesting comments so far. It seems that most do not think a ban is needed. Also seems as though the ones opposed become enraged and full of Hatred just thinking about it.

My Family and I have been enjoying our fire pit for the last 5 seasons since we purchased our home, My 2 children have spent hours roasting marshmallows and hotdogs, they love it. I guarantee their disappointment will be huge when we have to get rid of it.


But, Like everything else, 30 or 40 Babies will dictate what the remaining Million will or will not be permitted to do. Sickening!

The City has done a fantastic job teaching the "Sheep" to call 311 at the slightest irritant, Brilliant little Lemmings who can no longer think for themselves and for some reason forget that a simple 5 minute conversation with a neighbour most often has positive results.

I predict an all out ban on fire pits will be in place by this summers end. My $200.00 fire pit will be going to my brothers house in Saskatchewan. Their "Nanny" doesn't have as many rules as ours.

[mikey_the_redneck]

I think banning back yard fire pits is an infringement on peoples rights. I think there should be guidelines in place, but not a ban. Fire pits are no more dangerous than say..........people who smoke in their homes. What are we gonna tell people they cant smoke in their homes either?

I laugh at the fickleness of city people, and people in general I guess.......we are conditioned by our society that if you bitch and whine about something, you will be appeased in some way. You live in close quarters with your neighbors...........time to be a little more tolerant or move out of the city.

[ken0042]

I started a poll, and said no. There are enough rules in place already regarding them; and IMHO the complaints come from the people too cheap to pay for air conditioning.

[jtfrogger]

I think fire pits are great. There are rules in place, that if followed, should not be an unreasonable inconvenience to anyone else. If someone is not following the rules, talk to them and/or the city to resolve it.

As for having a permit, I don't understand how that will help. The people that would follow the rules and get the permit would probably also follow the existing rules now.

Address the problem people directly, don't put extra rules on the people that don't need them.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I started a poll, and said no. There are enough rules in place already regarding them; and IMHO the complaints come from the people too cheap to pay for air conditioning.

Uh, AC doesn't help if your neighbour has a fire pit. The AC still has to get air from somewhere...

[ken0042]

My air intakes are about 15 feet closer to the ground than my bedroom window. If your neighbour has such a huge firepit going that the smoke is coming into your house at ground level; then it is time to call the fire department.

[PowerPlayoffs06]

Should ban backward BBQs as well. Wouldn't want the smells of cooking hamburgers and steaks wafting into peoples open windows. What if those people are vegetarian? We need to think of them too.

[flip]

If peanut butter isn't allowed in schools then fire pits shouldn't be allowed in the city. Doesn't mean I agree with either one, it is just that if we are going to let an extremely small minority make the rest of our lives extremely inconvenient we might as well go all the way with it.

[J pold]

Is the city really considering banning fire-pits? I haven't word a about this.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by ken0042

My air intakes are about 15 feet closer to the ground than my bedroom window. If your neighbour has such a huge firepit going that the smoke is coming into your house at ground level; then it is time to call the fire department.

I can smell firepits from a block away. I guess they're too big too? Or maybe smoke really travels.

And what the does your air intakes have to do with your bedroom window? Is the firepit at your window?

[Methanolic]

Originally Posted by J pold

Is the city really considering banning fire-pits? I haven't word a about this.

There was an article in the Calgary Sun on Wed. June 03. I can't find it on the Suns website though.

This was in the Calgary Herald back in March.


http://www.calgaryherald.com/Health/...029/story.html

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Shazam

And what the does your air intakes have to do with your bedroom window? Is the firepit at your window?

You quoted my original comment; at that point the discussion had been about people wanting their bedroom windows open to allow cool air in during the summer.

A week or two ago my next door neighbours were having people over for a fire. It wasn't quite warm enough for me to justify having the A/C on, so the windows were open. Once I decided the smoke and the noise were more than I wanted, I closed the windows and turned on the A/C.

And in cities like Winnipeg where most people have A/C, there is never a debate about fire pits like we have here in Calgary.

[Dion]

So, whose enjoyment takes precedence? I'd have to say it's the people with health problems. There's no reason they should swelter in their homes, desperate for a cool breeze, with windows and doors shut tight to avoid smoke wafting in and setting off an asthma attack or allergic reaction.

If yards were bigger in Calgary, it might not be such a problem. But in the new subdivisions where the houses are so close you can lean out your bedroom window and touch the siding of the home next door, firepits may not be exactly conducive to good relations between neighbours.

http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald...58940cf069&p=2

[Methanolic]

Again, because of the gradual conditioning, Many of us beleive that we can not take care of ourselves, But rather the City must take care of us.

The person with the respiratory illness needs to speak to the neighbour and make them aware of the situation. They could even go so far as to let the neighbour know when they will be away from the home for an extended period and maybe the neighbour would take advantage and enjoy a nice back yard weiner roast or what ever.

Obviously, If that doesn't solve the problem, that's when you get bylaw services involved, Not before an attempt at a simple communication.








Last year my neighbours motion light was shining almost right into our eyes in the evening. I went and made him aware, within minutes he was up on a ladder and tilted the light down.


2 years ago I was draining my daughters little pool in the back yard, Someone across the lane saw water running down the alley and called 311. Just as I was finishing and rinseing it out with a hose, A full on Fire Engine with a full crew and the station cheif in an suv were banging at my gate. The person that called said i was dumping chemicals, the pool was filled directly from my hose bib and no chems were ever put into it. All this could have been avoided had this person just come over and let me know they were concerned and all would have been easily explained.


last weekend we had people over for a bbq, we had a radio on, although I didn't think it was too loud, around 10:00PM a new neighbour came to my back gate and told me his 10 month old daughter was having trouble sleeping and he thought it might be the music. I told him I'd turn it right down and to let me know if it continued to be a problem. All was resolved without the need for any assistance by the City. Amazing!

Keep the City out your business people! We are Not Infants. We Can take care of ourselves!

[Titan]

Originally Posted by Methanolic

Again, because of the gradual conditioning, Many of us beleive that we can not take care of ourselves, But rather the City must take care of us.

The person with the respiratory illness needs to speak to the neighbour and make them aware of the situation. They could even go so far as to let the neighbour know when they will be away from the home for an extended period and maybe the neighbour would take advantage and enjoy a nice back yard weiner roast or what ever.

Obviously, If that doesn't solve the problem, that's when you get bylaw services involved, Not before an attempt at a simple communication.

Last year my neighbours motion light was shining almost right into our eyes in the evening. I went and made him aware, within minutes he was up on a ladder and tilted the light down.


2 years ago I was draining my daughters little pool in the back yard, Someone across the lane saw water running down the alley and called 311. Just as I was finishing and rinseing it out with a hose, A full on Fire Engine with a full crew and the station cheif in an suv were banging at my gate. The person that called said i was dumping chemicals, the pool was filled directly from my hose bib and no chems were ever put into it. All this could have been avoided had this person just come over and let me know they were concerned and all would have been easily explained.


last weekend we had people over for a bbq, we had a radio on, although I didn't think it was too loud, around 10:00PM a new neighbour came to my back gate and told me his 10 month old daughter was having trouble sleeping and he thought it might be the music. I told him I'd turn it right down and to let me know if it continued to be a problem. All was resolved without the need for any assistance by the City. Amazing!

Keep the City out your business people! We are Not Infants. We Can take care of ourselves!

I agree completely. However, It is not always that easy. We had a parking issue. The knobs were parking on the wrong side of the street, facing the wrong way and made it so trucks could not pass. We talked to one guy in the house and he said he understood but it was his sister. When my neighbor went to talk to them they basically screamed at her and told her to p... off.

Same thing when my wife tried to talk to her. So another neighbor petitions the city and no parking signs go up and everything has been copacetic since. However, if the doosh had simply parked properly when made aware of the problem then all that effort would not have to have been wasted.

Some people are just vinegar and water.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by lucky1

Directly from the City of Calgary Webpage.....

Firepits

All fires must be:

• In a fire pit or non-combustible container. Firepits must be built into the bare ground or set on non-combustible material, such as brick or stone.
• At least two metres away from the property line, building or fence, and not beneath any trees, branches or other combustible materials.
• Kept to a reasonable size (under one metre both height and width) so the fire, embers, sparks and dense smoke don't endanger anyone or cause a nuisance to any neighbouring properties.
• Fully supervised at all times.
• Fully extinguished by 1 a.m. They can be relit after 10 a.m.

Use only clean, dry wood, and you must have a way of extinguishing the fire close by at all times. Fines for breaking these regulations range between $300 and $5,000.

I didnt know about the 1am time limit till a few weeks agao when the police showed up

[Tower]

If a ban is put in place I will build the biggest firepit man has ever seen! I will then invite all to bask in it's glory and eat the biggest toasted marshmallows whilst drinking CO-OP Traditional Ale (Cuz it's cheap and still good).

Then I will laugh at all who do not come and join in the fun! MWHA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Or not make such a big deal about it and build one anyway.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by Tower

If a ban is put in place I will build the biggest firepit man has ever seen! I will then invite all to bask in it's glory and eat the biggest toasted marshmallows whilst drinking CO-OP Traditional Ale (Cuz it's cheap and still good).

Then I will laugh at all who do not come and join in the fun! MWHA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

[DESS]

Interesting to see that three other people have voted for an all out ban, but the loud-mouth majority at CP has bullied them into keeping their mouth shut in the forum. I would like to hear an opinion of somebody opposed to backyard firepits, since there are obviously others who share my view.

I'm also lauging at the post re: just talk to your neighbour if you have a problem. My neighbours are of the F-U variety, so I don't even bother anymore. 311 and my problem is solved.