04-29-2009, 05:54 PM
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The apology is great but these terrible acts shouldn't have happened in the first place.
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04-29-2009, 06:13 PM
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It's just too bad the compensation the church has handed out to these people wasn't 79 billion, instead of million. They deserve every cent they can get.
On the other hand, if the catholic church had to hand out that kind of cash to every person around the world affected in a case like this one that was the fault of their own guys they'd be broke pretty quick.
At least the pope is going to pray for them. That will do a lot.
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04-29-2009, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
At least the pope is going to pray for them. That will do a lot.
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Knowing that would mean a lot to a lot of people, maybe not you, but many others.
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04-29-2009, 08:07 PM
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Good, hopefully he apologizes to the continent of Africa next.
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04-29-2009, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
On the other hand, if the catholic church had to hand out that kind of cash to every person around the world affected in a case like this one that was the fault of their own guys they'd be broke pretty quick.
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Them's the breaks.
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04-29-2009, 08:17 PM
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Maybe the church could sell all their expensive dresses and hats, oh and those staffs covered in jewels.
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04-29-2009, 09:38 PM
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Good, hopefully he apologizes to the continent of Africa next.
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Most Africans aren't Catholics, so I doubt most would notice if he said anything.
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04-29-2009, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Maybe the church could sell all their expensive dresses and hats, oh and those staffs covered in jewels.
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The Church were the original pimps... I don't know what that even means but it sounded cool in my head.
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04-30-2009, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Most Africans aren't Catholics, so I doubt most would notice if he said anything.
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Last I heard they make up 16%, 135 million people, while Christians make up around 40%, the rest mostly Islam.
The problem is that the Vatican has a serious influence on Africans, many of the religious in Africa, be it Islam, Christianity, Catholicism, et al.. The mixture of old religion and tribal religion leads to all kinds of interesting outcomes, but what it has done is cause massive distrust to the west, especially after Africa's colonial age.
That distrust is everything from western medicine and things such as condom use. The fact the Vatican tells its many bishops over Africa to tell their followers not to use condoms only spreads to the regular people as "condoms are dangerous, product of white man that spreads aids." You get a highly religious populace, with horrible education standards and all kinds of nonsense becomes believed, such as raping a virgin will cure aids.
The problem of distrust is so bad, that while the Vatican speaks to 'Catholics' in Africa, its message unfortunately is spread to others and helps continue this mistrust of the west technology, medicine, etc.
There is no doubt condoms would save millions in Africa, and the Vatican has a big hand in continuing this fear of protection, whether it be directly to their 135 million followers or to those who hear this message 2nd hand.
Its gotten so bad that in some countries in Africa they are pushing circumcision on boys in order to lower AIDS risks since young African males are very unlikely to use protection.
So yes, African's do listen to their religious leaders and the Pope is in charge of a lot of them.
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04-30-2009, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Maybe the church could sell all their expensive dresses and hats, oh and those staffs covered in jewels.
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Better yet, they should open the vatican library/archive to scholars. Or even just sell the stuff in it.
It's always bugged me that they've horded precious documents, scientific findings, valuable art, and all sorts of knowledge that was meant for the world and other cultures, in their attempt to keep control.
There's something really wrong with that.
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04-30-2009, 07:43 AM
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and here I was wondering who's Pepe
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04-30-2009, 08:55 AM
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An apology is all well and good, but it would mean a lot more it came with some action to stop the abuse of children that is still happening all around the world.
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04-30-2009, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Last I heard they make up 16%, 135 million people, while Christians make up around 40%, the rest mostly Islam
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what is the differnce between christian and catholics?
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04-30-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it
what is the differnce between christian and catholics?
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Catholics are a subgroup of Christians. Christianity includes any religion which believes that Christ was the son of God. So Protestants and their many subgroups ( Baptists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Anglicans, etc, etc), Mormons (I think??), and a few other minor ones are all considered Christian as well.
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04-30-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it
what is the differnce between christian and catholics?
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What's the difference between hockey fans and Flames fans?
All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics.
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04-30-2009, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
What's the difference between hockey fans and Flames fans?
All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics.
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So they wear different coloured jersey's to church?.....I was actaully looking for more of a theological based response......buts thanks none the less
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04-30-2009, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it
So they wear different coloured jersey's to church?.....I was actaully looking for more of a theological based response......buts thanks none the less
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The differences are pretty much in the details, but the jist is the same.
But the Pope is only the leader of the Catholic Church, he has nothing to do with all of the other sects.
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04-30-2009, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it
So they wear different coloured jersey's to church?.....I was actaully looking for more of a theological based response......buts thanks none the less
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Catholics are Christians that believe Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus.
And just as a further FYI it doesn't hold up in a child support court.
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04-30-2009, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bagor
Catholics are Christians that believe Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus.
I tried that argument in a child support court. It doesn't hold up.
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so other "christians" don't think she was a virgin?
PS: I am sorry you were flaccid in court
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