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flip · 03-12-2009, 03:25 PM

As has been discussed before this would be terrible for anyone who smokes pot. Quality would go down, price would go up.

Many theorize that illegal activity would increase as well because the government wouldn't want anyone encroaching on their business.

Lewis Black said it best last night on the Daily Show:

http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the...es/#clip147733

(relevant part starts at about 1:57 of the video)

ikaris · 03-12-2009, 03:43 PM

The only reason it wasn't decriminalized here in the first place was because of American pressure. Hopefully with a more progressive American administration and a future Liberal government

the laws will get reformed as they should have before.

The first step to legalization is decriminalization.

DementedReality · 03-12-2009, 03:44 PM

well at least i would know where to get some ... lol

Ford Prefect · 03-12-2009, 03:46 PM

Legalize pot and prostitution and viola, recession over. Gov could probably even ditch the GST if they did this.

mikey_the_redneck · 03-12-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by flip

As has been discussed before this would be terrible for anyone who smokes pot. Quality would go down, price would go up.

Many theorize that illegal activity would increase as well because the government wouldn't want anyone encroaching on their business.

Lewis Black said it best last night on the Daily Show:

http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the...es/#clip147733

(relevant part starts at about 1:57 of the video)

Why do you think the quality would go down?

DementedReality · 03-12-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Why do you think the quality would go down?

because thats how the guberment does things ...

JohnnyFlame · 03-12-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

Legalize pot and prostitution and viola, recession over. Gov could probably even ditch the GST if they did this.

So legalizing pansies(viola) would cure the recession--who woulda guessed?

calculoso · 03-12-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor

Wouldn't happen, they'd be forced to only grow them in commercial or industrial sites.

Where as now it wouldn't happen because they aren't allowed to grow it at all...

C'mon. That's the whole problem. Where there's a rule, there's someone who will break it. We'll see even more grow-ops than we have now because they can "legally" sell it. There will be no drop in police fees because they'll still have to sniff out the *still* illegal grow-ops.

DementedReality · 03-12-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by calculoso

Where as now it wouldn't happen because they aren't allowed to grow it at all...

C'mon. That's the whole problem. Where there's a rule, there's someone who will break it. We'll see even more grow-ops than we have now because they can "legally" sell it. There will be no drop in police fees because they'll still have to sniff out the *still* illegal grow-ops.

i see your point, but when was the last time you heard about an illegal beer brewing operation?

alcohol sales seem pretty contained to legal establishments, no?

Kipper3256 · 03-12-2009, 04:07 PM

I’m all for legalizing marijuana but the Canadian government will never do it. The government may de-criminalize it meaning you can still get a ticket or small fine for possessing it. BC would be the only province to legalize it but Canada as a whole would never…

CaptainCrunch · 03-12-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Ahh why not go all the way--more moolah-- we could just allow it to be sold to the colored's(negroes, whatever they call them these days). They're animals anyway so let them lose their souls.

What the hell did I do to deserve that response, I don't believe I was pointing to anything race related.

JohnnyFlame · 03-12-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by calculoso

Where as now it wouldn't happen because they aren't allowed to grow it at all...

C'mon. That's the whole problem. Where there's a rule, there's someone who will break it. We'll see even more grow-ops than we have now because they can "legally" sell it. There will be no drop in police fees because they'll still have to sniff out the *still* illegal grow-ops.

But we could subsidize the legal farmers because it won't be covered under NAFTA or WTO. That way we could export as well. Dealers could line up at the border and we fill their trucks and then they are on their own as far as getting by the American authorities. We could make enough cash to reclaim our hockey teams from the South.

JohnnyFlame · 03-12-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

What the hell did I do to deserve that response, I don't believe I was pointing to anything race related.

LOL don't know your movies do ya?

CaptainCrunch · 03-12-2009, 04:09 PM

apparently not.

JohnnyFlame · 03-12-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

apparently not.

It's from the "Godfather".

CaptainCrunch · 03-12-2009, 04:22 PM

believe it or not, I've never seen

Suave · 03-12-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

Legalize pot and prostitution and viola, recession over. Gov could probably even ditch the GST if they did this.

Yet a country such as the Netherlands that has done both is also in a recession and has a higher tax rate then Canada.

Raekwon · 03-12-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

It's from the "Godfather".

lol, holy crap johnny for a second there I thought you lost your mind with that post. Obviously I havn't seen the godfather either

mikey_the_redneck · 03-12-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Suave

Yet a country such as the Netherlands that has done both is also in a recession and has a higher tax rate then Canada.

Yeah but we don't know how much they are spending either. You can make any amount of money and not spend it well.

Flames Draft Watcher · 03-12-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderball

Marijuana can impair one's ability to operate a vehicle just as alcohol can, but its much harder to test for, save for cops doing on-the-spot urine tests. So if you legalize it, you have to devise a quick and effective testing procedure.

They impair people in radically different ways. Alcohol significantly reduces reaction time, weed does not affect people in quite the same way. Also it has to be taken into account that regular marijuana users do not experience as much of an effect from the drug as someone who isn't a regular user.

Frankly from my extensive experience of being drunk, high and tired in various scenarios that have tested my reaction time and decision making my conclusion is that alcohol is far more impairing than weed for a regular user and being tired is arguably more impairing as well. One of the more interesting examples was when I used to play a lot of foosball (a game of pure reaction speed) with friends. We've played it all of us high, all of us drunk, some high some drunk, etc. You basically can't play it drunk at all your reaction time is so bad. High people were about as good at it as sober people. I'd rate being high as being about as impairing as talking on a cellphone while driving for a regular user.

Anyways the simplistic association that some people make that driving drunk = driving high is far from the truth. I think extensive studies would back this up as would the personal experience of those who have both drank and smoked in various scenarios. And then of course there are just horrible drivers out there who in their normal state are more "impaired" driving. We could just as easily talk about higher standards for driving tests if you really care about reducing the potential for accidents.

Anyways bottom line to me is that driving drunk worries me about 10 times more than people driving around high. It shouldn't be the main issue when talking about legalization.