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Russic · 03-04-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by albertGQ

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What does the bolded intersections mean?

I thought they were only debuting them at 4 intersections at first to give out warnings ... perhaps the bolded ones are 3 of the 4?

4X4 · 03-04-2009, 10:07 AM

Wont be long before there is friggin GPS in every car and you just get a ticket every time you speed.

Russic · 03-04-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

Wont be long before there is friggin GPS in every car and you just get a ticket every time you speed.

Technically that would probably be the only sure way people would learn. The problem I have with tickets is that in terms of punishment it's like spanking your kid 1-2% of the time they act out. Until you can provide some form of consistent punishment nobody ever learns.

I'm not saying I'm all for constant monitoring of course, just that it would be the most effective teaching tool.

an_album_cover · 03-04-2009, 01:08 PM

Hello all,

New to the board and just had a question - does anyone know if these "loops" are triggered by a specific weight?

Reason why I ask is because sometimes I'm at a light that appears to require a sort of trigger to go off, otherwise stays red - does this make sense? Ex: late at night, and very early in the mornings, I've been stuck at an intersection because I believe that my motorcycle isn't heavy enough to set off these sensors.

Do these weight sensors exist, and if so, are they part of these loops? I'm just curious.

Thanks!

worth · 03-04-2009, 01:16 PM

Most of the signals work with an inductive loop. Not by weight.

If you look, you will see lines where they have cut the asphalt after installing the road. They install the circuit. When you park over the circuit, the inductance of the circuit changes because there is a vehicle sitting over top of it. It detects the change and it knows there is a car over it. Maybe with a motorcycle there is less steel and therefore less change and that is why it's not working, but I would think they could account for motorcycles.

Russic · 03-04-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by an_album_cover

Hello all,

New to the board and just had a question - does anyone know if these "loops" are triggered by a specific weight?

Reason why I ask is because sometimes I'm at a light that appears to require a sort of trigger to go off, otherwise stays red - does this make sense? Ex: late at night, and very early in the mornings, I've been stuck at an intersection because I believe that my motorcycle isn't heavy enough to set off these sensors.

Do these weight sensors exist, and if so, are they part of these loops? I'm just curious.

Thanks!

I was always under the impression that the trigger is magnetic and not related to weight.

an_album_cover · 03-04-2009, 01:20 PM

Thanks for the info!

I just always found it odd that at some intersections, my friends and I would have to get a few bikes on the same spot and jump up and down like idiots. Sometimes not even that would work.

MaxPower · 03-04-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Russic

Technically that would probably be the only sure way people would learn. The problem I have with tickets is that in terms of punishment it's like spanking your kid 1-2% of the time they act out. Until you can provide some form of consistent punishment nobody ever learns.

I'm not saying I'm all for constant monitoring of course, just that it would be the most effective teaching tool.

That would trying to teach the wrong lesson though. Having cars that issue a ticket every time sometime types a text message on their cell phone while driving would save more lives than these BS cameras.

It's also important to remember that the intention of these cameras is absolutely not to teach anyone a lesson. It's about generating revenue... they want you to make the same mistake as many times as possible.

MaxPower · 03-04-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by worth

Most of the signals work with an inductive loop. Not by weight.

If you look, you will see lines where they have cut the asphalt after installing the road. They install the circuit. When you park over the circuit, the inductance of the circuit changes because there is a vehicle sitting over top of it. It detects the change and it knows there is a car over it. Maybe with a motorcycle there is less steel and therefore less change and that is why it's not working, but I would think they could account for motorcycles.

Yeah, there's not enough of a change in the field when a motorcycle sits on top of the sensor. Happens all the time here, I've seen people put really strong magnets on the bottom of their bikes to set off the sensors.

mikey_the_redneck · 03-04-2009, 03:09 PM

This is such BS...............now everyone will be looking down at their dashboard to monitor their speed all the time instead of watching the road and just going along with the flow.
I feel that this is very manipulative........there are tons of good drivers out there who are going to get punished for occasionally getting heavy footed.
The land of the free is turning into the land of slaves with no freedom.

You Need a Thneed · 03-04-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxPower

Yeah, there's not enough of a change in the field when a motorcycle sits on top of the sensor. Happens all the time here, I've seen people put really strong magnets on the bottom of their bikes to set off the sensors.

I can get the sensors to detect me when I'm on my bicycle. Maybe not first try, and sometimes requires jumping up and down on the loop line. But I can definately get it to change.

MaxPower · 03-04-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

I can get the sensors to detect me when I'm on my bicycle. Maybe not first try, and sometimes requires jumping up and down on the loop line. But I can definately get it to change.

Just from my experience, I have had sensors detect my motorcycle, either they're just more sensitive inductive-loop sensors or they're actually weight sensors I guess (I really didn't think they used weight sensors). The majority of sensors I encounter, though, are the inductive-loop brand that don't sense my bike.

JohnnyFlame · 03-04-2009, 04:05 PM

Would an EMP pulse wreck these things. IF so I think we need to invent handheld EMP devices so we can drive around town and put all these dumb things out of commission.

MaxPower · 03-04-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Would an EMP pulse wreck these things. IF so I think we need to invent handheld EMP devices so we can drive around town and put all these dumb things out of commission.

A hammer would wreck these things.

Tower · 03-04-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Russic

Technically that would probably be the only sure way people would learn. The problem I have with tickets is that in terms of punishment it's like spanking your kid 1-2% of the time they act out. Until you can provide some form of consistent punishment nobody ever learns.

I'm not saying I'm all for constant monitoring of course, just that it would be the most effective teaching tool.

And next all human rights go out the door... Peaceful people need to start fighting back. Enough is enough.

Tower · 03-04-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Would an EMP pulse wreck these things. IF so I think we need to invent handheld EMP devices so we can drive around town and put all these dumb things out of commission.

Paint ball them

Rathji · 03-04-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Would an EMP pulse wreck these things. IF so I think we need to invent handheld EMP devices so we can drive around town and put all these dumb things out of commission.

Setting off an EMP in your car would probably have not the overall result that you might be expecting.

REDVAN · 03-04-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

Wont be long before there is friggin GPS in every car and you just get a ticket every time you speed.

That will be the day of my suicide.

Draug · 03-04-2009, 11:18 PM

Or just the day to find a really good hacker . . .

Tyler · 03-05-2009, 09:49 AM

Here is a list of the 44 intersections that have the new speed on green cameras in Calgary.

Until April 1st, you will only get a warning.

Macleod Tr / 162 Av SE
Macleod Tr /12 Ave SE
Centre St/ 20 Ave N
John Laurie Bv / 53 St NW
68ST /16 Ave NE
Sarcee Tr / Richmond Rd S
4 St / 6 Ave SW
61 Ave / Barlow Tr SE
Crowchild Tr / 24 Ave NW
11 Ave / 4 St SW
11 Ave / 14 St SW
17 Ave / 44 St SE
14 St / Heritage Dr SW
14 St / Northmount Dr NW
64 Ave / 4 St NE
Anderson Rd / Acadia Dr SE
9 Ave / 11 St SW
Barlow Ttr / 32 Ave NE
52 ST / 32 AVE NE
Bowness Rd / Shaganappi Tr NW
Canyon Meadows Dr / Bowbottom Tr SE
Southland Dr / Acadia Dr SE
Fairmount Dr / Southland Dr SE
Elbow Dr / Southland Dr SW
Beddington Tr / Centre St N
Falconridge Bv / 64 Av NE
1 Street / 17 Ave SE
McKnight Bv / Barlow Tr NE
Barlow Tr / Centre Av E
Shaganappi Tr / Northland Dr NW
Blackfoot Tr / 42 Ave SE
Memorial Dr / 52 St NE
16 Ave / 10 Street NW
Edmonton Tr / McKnight BV NE
Memorial Dr / 28 St NE
Macleod Tr / 7 Ave SE
Bow Tr / 33 St SW
17 Ave / 33 St SW
Elbow Dr / Heritage Dr SW
Country Hills Bv / Beddington Tr NW
Glenmore Tr / Barlow Tr SE
McKnight Bv / Falconridge Bv NE
Macleod Tr / 25 Av SE
Country Hills BV / 14 St NW