02-17-2009, 11:52 AM
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CRTC revisits regulating the internet
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/588649
http://www.google.com/hostednews/can...axN3UVU3db2rOg
Screw you CRTC, you've already screwed with Canadians for 20 years on radio and television. Now you are thinking of regulating the internet? The one place where free form and expression and free competition of good ideas has a chance? Nobody wants to pay more money to the ISPs or more taxes just to fund "Canadian Content" or to do liscensing or requiring a percentage of Canadian content or to fund these sorts of futile endeavours. "Canadian Content" is bull****. I'm sorry ACTRA and Canadian Conference of the Arts and whatever groups are lobbying for this...but the internet is a competition for good ideas. If Canadian Content is getting lost - it's because it's not good enough to compete or capture the imaginations of people to create any demand. In a day an age where a kid can create his own video in his basement which can virally permeate to millions of people, it should be up to these people to make content good enough to warrant the attention on the internet that it deserves.
I don't think the CRTC has ever done any good in their attempts to regulate or enforce Canadian content rules. How does hearing the Tragically Hip or Bryan Adams hits from the late 80s on my radio all freaking day long help me or any other Canadians or really help this country? It's ridiculous and worse that good money, taxes, airtime (and eventually internet time?) keep getting diverted to deadends that actually make this country more laughable with mediocre, middle of the road, safe-choice, faux-nationalistic content than create anything good. Expanding this to the internet is the thinking of old fashioned ludites and greedy folks.
This is Stalin communism at it's best. We'll get charged more money for our internet bills or our taxes (did our taxes really go to funding Passhendale?) because they are funneling money to god knows where and ISPs and websites will just fill their Kremlin (CRTC) mandated quotas of Canadian content or material regardless of quality and wash rinse repeat ad infinitum.
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02-17-2009, 11:55 AM
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It's not easy being green!
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You cannot control the internet. It's ridiculous to think you can.
CRTC needs to stop the Can Con stuff too. I don't think they're helping artists.
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02-17-2009, 11:55 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Who wants to see Canadian porn?
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02-17-2009, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by troutman
Who wants to see Canadian porn?
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If I have to sit through one more flat-chested Nova Scotian riding a Mountie on the back of a Zamboni, I'll go OOT of my mind.
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02-17-2009, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Who wants to see Canadian porn?
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can you think of anything better than canadian beavers?
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02-17-2009, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kermitology
You cannot control the internet. It's ridiculous to think you can.
CRTC needs to stop the Can Con stuff too. I don't think they're helping artists.
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I thought some countries like china, N korea et al, block certain sites
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02-17-2009, 11:59 AM
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Not a casual user
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Ooooooh those Russians!
And Richard Hardacre can go to hell!
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02-17-2009, 12:00 PM
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CRTC is just pissing me off.
I still have to complain about the Superbowl.
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02-17-2009, 12:15 PM
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Comming soon....TELUS and Panago commercials before getting access to CP. FANTASTIC IDEA ISN'T IT?
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02-17-2009, 12:23 PM
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welcome to China...
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02-17-2009, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by troutman
Who wants to see Canadian porn?
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By the way, how is your mom?
just kidding, just kidding. Too good to pass up!!
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02-17-2009, 12:48 PM
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It looks like this would be a new levy similar to the blank CD levy that has been collecting millions for years and years.
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02-17-2009, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
It looks like this would be a new levy similar to the blank CD levy that has been collecting millions for years and years.
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And done nothing.
Except fund some bureaucrat in Ottawa, and maybe some record excecutives car payments.
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02-17-2009, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliche
And done nothing.
Except fund some bureaucrat in Ottawa, and maybe some record excecutives car payments.
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small price to pay to be able to legally download all the music you want for free.
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02-17-2009, 01:01 PM
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Just read the article- why do we need the CRTC involved in this? If sites are posting copyrighted material, then the copyright holder should request that it be removed.
Laws already exist that cover this- no need for the CRTC to step in.
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02-17-2009, 01:12 PM
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This sums up my views on CRTC and the "artists" that depend on it. If someone with Photoshop skills wants to have a go...
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02-17-2009, 01:15 PM
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Franchise Player
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From Michael Geist: Rogers - "We're A Dumb Pipe"
Rogers admits to traffic shaping on the one hand (that is, discriminating upload/download speeds based on the content or kind of packets on its network) but then claims that it can't do the same to enforce potential Canadian content rules.
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02-17-2009, 01:16 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Dan02
small price to pay to be able to legally download all the music you want for free.
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29 cents per disk, up from 5.2 and rising.
Also, that's a wrong argument as well, as the tariff was brought in solely to benefit artists and other content creators. Not as a caveat for downloading music for free.
How about I charge a cup tax for all that coffee that people drink, and put it somewhere that will be managed by SIG's. I'm sure the coffee growers of Canada would benefit.
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02-17-2009, 01:29 PM
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Comedian Colin Mochrie, of This Hour Has 22 Minutes and Whose Line Is It Anyway? said Canadians can easily view clips and entire episodes of his shows on YouTube and can also post their own cell-phone video recordings of his stand-up appearances to the video-sharing site.
"This is now the norm. People are watching original programs online or on their iPods. You see, just like television, new media is just another platform for viewing and distributing programming content," Mochrie said in his presentation, where he argued new media should follow the same rules.
"The space for content is practically endless; however, being endless, content can get easily lost. So how do we make sure Canadians can find their own content? ... When I star in a movie or a TV show, I do it because I want to work, I want people to see the show, to experience it. They can't do that if they aren't given the choice."
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Sorry Colin,
If I found you funny enough, I would find you. I don't need your performances shoved down my throat by a government agency that thinks I should watch Canadian content, first and foremost, based on where I live.
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02-17-2009, 01:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredr123
From Michael Geist: Rogers - "We're A Dumb Pipe"
Rogers admits to traffic shaping on the one hand (that is, discriminating upload/download speeds based on the content or kind of packets on its network) but then claims that it can't do the same to enforce potential Canadian content rules.
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That's a flawed argument by Mr Geist.
It is (relatively) easy to tell the type of traffic for shaping purposes.
It is like looking at a highway and being able to tell the difference between makes of cars (and enforcing a specific speed limit for different models).
Now you are trying to charge a toll based on the nationality of the passengers.
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