Resist the police and

[Reaper]

I have to say, I watched the video and it made me laugh heartily.

What do people expect when they don't comply with orders from a police officer?

A cookie?

Cops do not have time for your bullshinguard so if they ask you to get out of the car then YOU GET OUT OF THE fataing CAR!

[dustygoon]

Just shut the fata up, get off the phone, and get out of the fata car. What is so difficult? If I was a cop and someone didn't do these things, I would have to be prudent and assume she is up to no good.

She had that SOOOOO coming. I hope they got her in the lips.

[photon]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Jun 2 2005, 09:38 PM
Bart: Wow! Can I see your club?
Lou: It's called a baton, son.
Bart: Oh. What's it for?
Lou: We club people with it.

Ah the Simpsons.. is there any argument they CAN'T settle??

[photon]

Originally posted by fotze@Jun 2 2005, 09:01 PM
Well if you want to get all official and truthical in the argument then I guess I can't win. Once again an engineer is outwitted by the IT guy.

Well I have a degree in engineering and I used to be an IT guy, but now I'm a developer.

What relevance does this have?

It means I'd probably scream like a little girl if I was hit with one of those things.

[JayP]

I'm really getting tired of these idiots who think tasers are the devil. The woman had broken 5 laws and was resisting arrest. The cop gave her two fataing warnings - what the hell do you expect to happen? The cops don't have time to be bothered with some moron not complying with basic commands. I'd rather they tazor her and get on with their jobs, helping society with more dangerous criminals.

I've never been tazed, but I'd probably rather be tazed than beat out of my car with a baton. The pain from a tazor stops after the 5 seconds - I'm sure you'd be hurting from a club beating for more than 5 seconds.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by JayP@Jun 3 2005, 11:12 AM
I'm really getting tired of these idiots who think tasers are the devil. The woman had broken 5 laws and was resisting arrest. The cop gave her two fataing warnings - what the hell do you expect to happen? The cops don't have time to be bothered with some moron not complying with basic commands. I'd rather they tazor her and get on with their jobs, helping society with more dangerous criminals.

I've never been tazed, but I'd probably rather be tazed than beat out of my car with a baton. The pain from a tazor stops after the 5 seconds - I'm sure you'd be hurting from a club beating for more than 5 seconds.

Oooh call in the Marines, we've got a cracked windshield, a cell phone and a broken tail light.

He gave her 30 seconds to get out of the car. That doesn't seem like that long to me. If he had hollered at her for another 15 seconds or even wasted 30 more seconds, he might have save himself some of those precious seconds to catch the dangerous criminals.

I'd rather be tazed than beaten with a baton also. So what?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

I don't really know if the use of the Taser is necessary, and that she had it coming to her. But one could see how it was the justifiable use of force, which doesn't always make it the correct use of force. She likely was not a threat, and while I didn't see the punch (it was at the other side of the vehicle) so I can't comment on that, but if a punch was attempted at all, then she did deserve it.

But still she was obviously playing it up for a lawsuit.

AHhhhhh loook at my arm...

The best part was the cops were just standing there.

[Faid1]

Remember that video of the woman who fell over while stomping grapes? Taser girl's wailing is even worse.

I don't think she deserved to be tasered though.

[Pagal4321]

Well really what can you expect if you don't obey a police officer's order?

Was the taser necessary in our eyes? Probably not....but cops have got to be extra careful in this day of age. Lady could just driven off, killing somone, or who knows she could just busted out a gun.

on the other hand......Most annoying sound EVER !!!

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Pagal4321@Jun 3 2005, 02:43 PM
Well really what can you expect if you don't obey a police officer's order?

Was the taser necessary in our eyes? Probably not....but cops have got to be extra careful in this day of age. Lady could just driven off, killing somone, or who knows she could just busted out a gun.

on the other hand......Most annoying sound EVER !!!

If they taser everyone who doesn't jump out of the car immediately when asked then they must be tasering a lot of people. Probably have to keep a small nuclear reactor in the trunk so they can constantly be recharging them.

[Clarkey]

No they shouldn't have tased her they should have shot her!

[peter12]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Jun 3 2005, 03:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Jun 3 2005, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pagal4321@Jun 3 2005, 02:43 PM
Well really what can you expect if you don't obey a police officer's order?

Was the taser necessary in our eyes? Probably not....but cops have got to be extra careful in this day of age. Lady could just driven off, killing somone, or who knows she could just busted out a gun.

on the other hand......Most annoying sound EVER !!!

If they taser everyone who doesn't jump out of the car immediately when asked then they must be tasering a lot of people. Probably have to keep a small nuclear reactor in the trunk so they can constantly be recharging them. [/b][/quote]
30 seconds and she didn't even start to get out of her car. It was pretty clear she had no intention of complying.

[peter12]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Jun 3 2005, 03:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Jun 3 2005, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pagal4321@Jun 3 2005, 02:43 PM
Well really what can you expect if you don't obey a police officer's order?

Was the taser necessary in our eyes? Probably not....but cops have got to be extra careful in this day of age. Lady could just driven off, killing somone, or who knows she could just busted out a gun.

on the other hand......Most annoying sound EVER !!!

If they taser everyone who doesn't jump out of the car immediately when asked then they must be tasering a lot of people. Probably have to keep a small nuclear reactor in the trunk so they can constantly be recharging them. [/b][/quote]
30 seconds and she didn't even start to get out of her car. It was pretty clear she had no intention of complying.

[Pagal4321]

Originally posted by peter12+Jun 3 2005, 09:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peter12 @ Jun 3 2005, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

If they taser everyone who doesn't jump out of the car immediately when asked then they must be tasering a lot of people. Probably have to keep a small nuclear reactor in the trunk so they can constantly be recharging them.

30 seconds and she didn't even start to get out of her car. It was pretty clear she had no intention of complying. [/b][/quote]
I'm not saying taser EVERYONE. But if your telling some lady multiple times to get out of her vehicle and all she can do is tell her friend, oh god, I'm being arrested, o god, o god......really what do you expect.

[Inferno]

She sounded like a cat in heat.

[JayP]

Originally posted by peter12+Jun 3 2005, 08:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peter12 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

If they taser everyone who doesn't jump out of the car immediately when asked then they must be tasering a lot of people. Probably have to keep a small nuclear reactor in the trunk so they can constantly be recharging them.

30 seconds and she didn't even start to get out of her car. It was pretty clear she had no intention of complying. [/b][/quote]
Exactly. The officer had already made an attempt to grab her out of the car and she resisted. She clearly wasn't budging and the cop simply said enough is enough. Hell, she wasn't even complying after she got tazed - what makes you think she was going to comply when she was sitting in her car?

[Resolute 14]

Unless this woman had some kind of physical disability, it shouldnt have taken her more than 5 seconds to exit the car like she was ordered to.

30 seconds was 25 seconds more than she needed to obey, and she was twice warned that she would be tasered if she failed to comply.

No sympathy to her whatsoever. She got what she deserved.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by JayP+Jun 4 2005, 10:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JayP @ Jun 4 2005, 10:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

30 seconds and she didn't even start to get out of her car. It was pretty clear she had no intention of complying.

Exactly. The officer had already made an attempt to grab her out of the car and she resisted. She clearly wasn't budging and the cop simply said enough is enough. Hell, she wasn't even complying after she got tazed - what makes you think she was going to comply when she was sitting in her car? [/b][/quote]
Oh right I forgot. 30 seconds is a really long time.

You guys can at least try to make a case (though I'll never buy it) for the first zap, but the second one?

"she wasn't complying after she got tazed"? She was flopping around on the ground for christs sake. Wailing like a banshee and in understandable pain and that cop was hollering at her, right after the 50 thousand volt buzz and she didn't immediately turn over so she gets another one?

Who was she possibly a danger to at that point? Oh right, she wasn't a danger to anyone, but she was wasting the officer's incredibly valuable time by not lying on her stomach immediately. He could have used that time to rush off to the scene of another cracked windshield.

[Incinerator]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@Jun 3 2005, 03:47 AM
Well, she was warned several times. She was pulled over for legitimate reasons.

I didn't see the "swing" she took at them though. I think that was either false or exaggerated, but at the same time, I don't think it matters.

And what an awful sound!!

I do wonder if cops are not becoming more taser happy these days though. It used to be more of a self-defense or last resort kind of thing, now it seems to be an everyday tool that is replacing negotiation skills and verbal tactics. Cops used to be trained to talk and use their brains to subdue stubborn people, now it seems like they just taser them instead.

I see taser as a very useful and non-lethal tool for the police, the CPS is looking into acquring some taser guns and I would say it's better they use those when necessary than to pull out their real guns when some psycho is waving a knife in their face. I'm sure no police officer could be feeling good when they have to fire live rounds, even in self-defense.


Talking is good, and it does work most of the time, but you said it, there are just people out there who are way too stubborn and don't know what's good for them and the safety of others around them, that's when other non-lethal alternatives have to be sought in order to subdue the trouble-makers.

[Incinerator]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Jun 3 2005, 09:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Jun 3 2005, 09:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pagal4321@Jun 3 2005, 02:43 PM
Well really what can you expect if you don't obey a police officer's order?

Was the taser necessary in our eyes? Probably not....but cops have got to be extra careful in this day of age. Lady could just driven off, killing somone, or who knows she could just busted out a gun.

on the other hand......Most annoying sound EVER !!!

If they taser everyone who doesn't jump out of the car immediately when asked then they must be tasering a lot of people. Probably have to keep a small nuclear reactor in the trunk so they can constantly be recharging them. [/b][/quote]
Did you even watch the video? Could you not see that she was STILL talking on the phone after she got pulled over and was giving the officer attitude left, right, and center when he told her to put the phone down? If there's anyone who deserves to get tazed it'd be her.


When you get pulled over, the proper procedure is to park it, turn off igition, leave your seatbelt on, roll down the window all the way and put your hands on the wheel 10 and 2. Don't reach for the licence and registration until he asks you to do so and tell him exactly where you are going to reach for them. It eases the officer's mind when you are co-operative and heck, if you weren't going that fast and behave like a good citizen should instead of giving him more trouble than necessary he might even let you off with a warning if he's on a call or something. I am speaking from personal experience here. Treat people with courtesy and you will receive the same in return more often than not.

It's people who thinks the laws in this country that gives them the freedom and liberty to live without fear, should also automatically give them the all mighty rights to verbally abuse the men & women of law enforcement, these people are the ones who deserves every volt coming to them in the form of a taser gun.

In simpler terms don't be a bitch and you won't be bitch-slapped, such a simple concept yet there are people out there who still don't get it.