Multanova Cameras & Red Light Cameras - 2 for 1!!

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Slava

Easy solution; don't speed or run red lights. I of course would never do either of these and have nothing to worry about, unlike the rest of you lawbreakers up in arms!

I can't believe I was the first to post the holier than solution!!

Probably because this combination gives even the most law-abiding of citizens the creeps. It's almost a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

You're approaching an intersection, going 65 in a 60 zone because it's a beautiful clear day, then the light turns. In a split second, you think "I'm so close, I know I won't get a red light ticket if I gun it, plus there's a cube van behind me so I don't really wanna pound the brakes".

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

Isn't that kind of like going double down at the Black Jack table for the city? Gotta pay for that urban sprawl somehow I guess.

"Calgary doesn't have an urban sprawl problem."

- Dave Bronconnier

[Slava]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Probably because this combination gives even the most law-abiding of citizens the creeps. It's almost a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

You're approaching an intersection, going 65 in a 60 zone because it's a beautiful clear day, then the light turns. In a split second, you think "I'm so close, I know I won't get a red light ticket if I gun it, plus there's a cube van behind me so I don't really wanna pound the brakes".

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I'm totally with you on this, no argument from me! I was just going by the general history of these threads on CP...

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Slava

I'm totally with you on this, no argument from me! I was just going by the general history of these threads on CP...

Lol. Too true. Of course, the real test will be dion's response.

[Dion]

Cash grab!

[4X4]

It's confirmed. Thanks Dion. And sorry I didn't capitalize your name in my last post. I thought you were a lower-caser.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by 4X4

It's confirmed. Thanks Dion. And sorry I didn't capitalize your name in my last post. I thought you were a lower-caser.

What did i confirm?

[Da_Chief]

Cover your plate, problem solved

[Clarkey]

Fubar that, Calgary doesn't have an urban sprawl problem. Cities expand out then build up, it's a natural progression.

[ken0042]

I heard on QR this afternoon that they were only allowed to issue speeding tickets while the light was green. They were quite specific about the legislation that was passed was (something or other) "on green."

Yeah, I got nailed by one of these when I was in Winnipeg a while ago. A 50 zone like Elbow where everybody does 60; I sped up to about 65 to go through the light. Fortunately Winnipeg has a policy to not ticket out of province cars.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Dion

What did i confirm?

Just bugging you a bit. Usually you argue "do the crime, do the time". I figured that if you saw this as a cash grab, it can be nothing other than a cash grab.

[Rifleman]

Cover your license plates with snow. Hey, it'll work about 8 months of the year here.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Just bugging you a bit. Usually you argue "do the crime, do the time". I figured that if you saw this as a cash grab, it can be nothing other than a cash grab.

Ahhhhhh okay. I agree that it's a tad unfair and i suspect i might get tagged with a ticket or 2 myself. I always tend to speed through the light as opposed to hitting the brakes and risking a rear ender - especialy in the winter when the roads are icy and you think the guy behind you isn't go to be able to stop in time.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Cover your plate, problem solved

How much is the ticket for this, and does it go to the driver or the registered owner? This is serious business, because if it goes to the driver and takes demerits off, then it's not worth the insurance risk, but if it goes to the registered owner, then it's prob worth the random ticket you'll get, because then you won't get speeding and red light tickets.

oh and this whole thing:

[Neeper]

F'n brutal. I guess now that oil is down to $40 bbl they gotta squeeze money out of us somehow. This will definitely cause more accidents, no doubt about it. Get a life!

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

How much is the ticket for this, and does it go to the driver or the registered owner? This is serious business, because if it goes to the driver and takes demerits off, then it's not worth the insurance risk, but if it goes to the registered owner, then it's prob worth the random ticket you'll get, because then you won't get speeding and red light tickets.

oh and this whole thing:

I'm sure it'll be like every other photo radar/red light cam and be sent to the registered owner since they could never prove the driver with those pictures....

[worth]

Radar detector should pick up these new cameras. It would be a similar isdea to the silver vans that sit on the side of the road to the best of my knowledge. I would assume that the cameras will use Ka band radar, easily detectable by any run of the mill radar detector.

[MaxPower]

Originally Posted by Jayems

Didn't someone mention that these redlight cameras cause more accidents because people are slamming on the brakes rather than going through a yellow out of fear of a ticket?

Yeah that's not the point, though. With the police and traffic laws, it's never been about safety, it's only about getting more money out of people who are already paying their taxes.

[driveway]

Man, this town has such long yellows that if people are out there running reds in non-winter driving conditions y'all deserve to get ticketed.

Right now, I think everyone will agree that continuing through a red-light instead of trying to stop on icy roads is by far the better choice, but by the time this comes into effect, the roads will be fine.

Sure, I speed from time to time and sure I've maybe run the odd red. But if I do these things I know I'm running the risk of getting a ticket. Everyone knows this. If you don't want to get a ticket, don't friggin' do it. It's pretty basic math.

[metallicat]

Well, I guess I'll be the first person to be somewhat in favour of this implementation. I have yet to see anyone get a photo radar ticket for going less than 15km over the limit. Therefore, I would have to think that these will be set up in the same way, with the discrepancy included.

I realize people speed. I speed. But I don't speed coming up to intersection, especially when the hand sign is either flashing or solid. It just isn't safe, and I have no interest in getting into a collision, my fault or otherwise, in an intersection. There is really no reason to be doing 15+ through an intersection. And if there is (life and death situation, pregnancy...whatever) then a little speeding ticket is probably worth making it to the hospital in time.