12-03-2008, 09:43 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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I take it you are trying to deflect attention away from the stupidity of your original complaint?
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12-03-2008, 09:45 AM
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#1442
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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specifically the resignation of Stephen Harper, would probably bring an end to this crisis.
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Why should he? He was given a mandate by the people of Canada, nevermind thise in his own riding, to form the government...it is indisputable.
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12-03-2008, 09:47 AM
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#1443
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GOAT!
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How anyone can back a Socialist coalition that requires full Separatist support in order to function, is completely beyond me. I think people need to think long and hard about the big picture.
There will be plenty of other times, I'm sure, to tell us all about how much you hate Stephen Harper.
...but, if you have even one ounce of love for this country, then this is not one of those times.
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12-03-2008, 09:50 AM
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#1444
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by driveway
Since coming into power the Conservatives have acted like a majority government - forcing the opposition to support, or at least not oppose their legislation or face election.
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Really? In the last few days I have seen that Harper caved to a cap and trade program and he also backed down on the two issues the other parties had a problem with..... yet the coalition went ahead.
Remind me again, who is not trying to coperate with whom?
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12-03-2008, 09:53 AM
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#1445
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
That is massive. He has heard this from whom though?
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He heard it from his fellow waiters at the Keg
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12-03-2008, 09:55 AM
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#1446
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Norm!
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Considering that this whole thing smacks of the opposition continuing with their strategy of not working with the government in place.
The NDP and Bloc were working on this since the last election and possibly before that, so they were looking to pick a fight.
The Conservatives basically caved on everything that the coalition wanted, yet the coalition refuses to back down.
The Law and Order Bill that the Liberal senators have been holding up forever.
Lets not forget that before dissolving parliment before the last election, Harper reached out and tried to contact the members of the opposition parties who couldn't be bothered to return his phone calls.
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12-03-2008, 09:55 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Read elsewhere...
"The unelectable joining with the uncanadian can't be good for the country."
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12-03-2008, 09:56 AM
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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Originally Posted by octothorp
Have there been further articles, or does one article from Thailand constitute the international media?
Last time I checked BBC and a couple other european news outlets, there wasn't even a mention of this. Because it's not really significant enough to count as news. I'd say that lack of coverage is far more meaningful about what the international community thinks than an article from one country that's currently going through a political crisis themselves.
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I saw an article from a US new source that used the C word as well. I've read so much stuff online recently I can't recall the exact source. I'll let you know if I find it again though.
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12-03-2008, 09:56 AM
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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Well, I see that people are incapable of getting past their knee-jerk regionalism and irrational fears. Y'all can have your little roundtable of redneckery and I'm going to go enjoy my majority-seat-holding, totally legal, coalition government.
Peace.
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12-03-2008, 09:57 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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Thanks for posting those. I'd still like to see it reported in main-stream media sources to get more of an idea of the international community views this. The India one is a reprint of the Thailand story. The Common Iowan and Moderate Voice are both using the term coup in a very tongue-in-cheek manner, as made clear in that both of it follow the word with a question-mark (implying that it really isn't a coup). Both are probably chosing the word purely for it's aliterative quality. The Huffington Post one is overwhelmingly in favour of the change in government, and is again using the word ironically. The Epoch Times uses the word in the URL, but not in the actual article. All things considered, it's not really a ringing condemnation from the international community.
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12-03-2008, 09:59 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sunnyvale nursing home
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Originally Posted by driveway
I've been waiting for someone to start calling the NDP communist. What next? Accusing Dion of being ineligible to serve in Parliament because he hasn't released a birth certificate?
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Let's not kids ourselves. If the tables were turned, and we had the Conservatives forming an alliance with the Bloc to bring down a Liberal government, not only would people on the other side be calling it a coup, they'd be using words like "nazis", "fascists", "beer hall putsch", and probably calling for the UN to intervene.
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12-03-2008, 09:59 AM
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#1452
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by octothorp
Thanks for posting those. I'd still like to see it reported in main-stream media sources to get more of an idea of the international community views this. The India one is a reprint of the Thailand story. The Common Iowan and Moderate Voice are both using the term coup in a very tongue-in-cheek manner, as made clear in that both of it follow the word with a question-mark (implying that it really isn't a coup). Both are probably chosing the word purely for it's aliterative quality. The Huffington Post one is overwhelmingly in favour of the change in government, and is again using the word ironically. The Epoch Times uses the word in the URL, but not in the actual article. All things considered, it's not really a ringing condemnation from the international community.
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I dont disagree that this isnt getting big play elsewhere because lets face it....there are MUCH bigger stories worldwide to begin with and Canada is not really big on any single countries cares.
But there are definately press members who will watch this thing unfold and report on it as it moves along...everywhere.
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12-03-2008, 10:00 AM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by driveway
Well, I see that people are incapable of getting past their knee-jerk regionalism and irrational fears. Y'all can have your little roundtable of redneckery and I'm going to go enjoy my majority-seat-holding, totally legal, coalition government.
Peace.
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 This coalition won't happen because the Liberals will bail out at the last second. The Conservatives have conceded a lot of points (and I guarantee there will be more including some shady support for Quebec), and I don't see how the GG will not delay this whole situation to allow for cooler heads to prevail.
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12-03-2008, 10:02 AM
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#1454
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Lifetime Suspension
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Some people on here call it a coup, I call it a liberation for the majority of Canadians. Long live the liberation of Canada.
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12-03-2008, 10:04 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by driveway
Well, I see that people are incapable of getting past their knee-jerk regionalism and irrational fears. Y'all can have your little roundtable of redneckery and I'm going to go enjoy my majority-seat-holding, totally legal, coalition government.
Peace.
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LOL!!
Yup..anyone who sees this as wrong is a redneck.
Good strong argument.
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12-03-2008, 10:09 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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Originally Posted by transplant99
I dont disagree that this isnt getting big play elsewhere because lets face it....there are MUCH bigger stories worldwide to begin with and Canada is not really big on any single countries cares.
But there are definately press members who will watch this thing unfold and report on it as it moves along...everywhere.
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Yeah, I think it'll start to appear in the international media if it gets to a point where a change in power starts to look like the most likely outcome, or even when someone does something unconstitutional. Until then, there's not much of a story here.
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12-03-2008, 10:11 AM
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#1457
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by EddyBeers
Some people on here call it a coup, I call it a liberation for the majority of Canadians. Long live the liberation of Canada.
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Holy good god.
I sure hope the above was supposed to be in Green, as the last election showed that Canadians - you know, the ones that actually vote - didn't feel the same way. If they felt that they were needing to be liberated from the Conservative rule, why did they not choose that?
Of course.. I know the answer....
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12-03-2008, 10:12 AM
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#1458
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by driveway
Well, I see that people are incapable of getting past their knee-jerk regionalism and irrational fears. Y'all can have your little roundtable of redneckery and I'm going to go enjoy my majority-seat-holding, totally legal, coalition government.
Peace.
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I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.
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12-03-2008, 10:14 AM
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#1459
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by driveway
Well, I see that people are incapable of getting past their knee-jerk regionalism and irrational fears. Y'all can have your little roundtable of redneckery and I'm going to go enjoy my majority-seat-holding, totally legal, coalition government.
Peace.
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It's always easier to run away from a debate with those who's views are opposed to yours, isn't it? It is the true Liberal way.
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12-03-2008, 10:14 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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Originally Posted by transplant99
LOL!!
Yup..anyone who sees this as wrong is a redneck.
Good strong argument. 
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You weren't aware that anybody who supports democracy and a free economic market was an uneducated, uncultured redneck?
How many Canadians have given their lives defending these very things?
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