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CaptainCrunch · 12-02-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

http://imrightasrain.blogspot.com/20...coalition.html

Rumours have 15 MPs willing to break ranks and sit as independent MPs.

That would be an outright interesting scenario. Effectively they would become the power in the parliament.

transplant99 · 12-02-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by First Lady

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/CANADIAN/petition.html

Not a poll, but 47294 no's.

Ahhhh....but you see here is the problem.

our resident "socialist at any cost" would point out that

ITS NOT SCIENTIFIC....with which, I could not disagree.

I would ask him/her/it however, if him/her/it could supply a similarly unscientific poll that showed as much support the other way.

My guess would be a rather basic but muddled....nope!

Blaster86 · 12-02-2008, 07:36 PM

NDP and Liberal that I have talked to in North Van (myself included) are entirely against this. It can't go through, it just can't.

kermitology · 12-02-2008, 07:36 PM

When my nearly socialist oldest friend comments to me that he thinks this whole thing is undemocratic (being that it is not the spirit of democracy) something is wrong.

This would be an ungodly nightmare if Dion succeeds in this faux coup.

FanIn80 · 12-02-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Ahhhh....but you see here is the problem.

our resident "socialist at any cost" would point out that

ITS NOT SCIENTIFIC....with which, I could not disagree.

I would ask him/her/it however, if him/her/it could supply a similarly unscientific poll that showed as much support the other way.

My guess would be a rather basic but muddled....nope!

Well, they probably could find a poll like that, but it would be in french.

FanIn80 · 12-02-2008, 07:39 PM

The clip of Dion jumping up and down in Parliament today, screaming at the top of his lungs... He couldn't even complete a sentence! He just kept clenching his fists and squinting his eyes and crying about how everyone hates him.

It was truly embarrassing to watch.

First Lady · 12-02-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by transplant99

Ahhhh....but you see here is the problem.

our resident "socialist at any cost" would point out that

ITS NOT SCIENTIFIC....with which, I could not disagree.

I would ask him/her/it however, if him/her/it could supply a similarly unscientific poll that showed as much support the other way.

My guess would be a rather basic but muddled....nope!

Or you could show him/her this.

http://causes.ca/coalition

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CaptainCrunch · 12-02-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

The clip of Dion jumping up and down in Parliament today, screaming at the top of his lungs... He couldn't even complete a sentence! He just kept clenching his fists and squinting his eyes and crying about how everyone hates him.

It was truly embarrassing to watch.

When I saw his rant I thought he was yelling in french, then I felt bad because it was in-articulate English.

V · 12-02-2008, 07:44 PM

I'm having sound issues with that CPAC website. Are there any other websites that would show question period?

redforever · 12-02-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

Well, considering this is the same woman who asked her members and constituents to vote for anyone other than the Conservatives...

It's not like she's the world's most honorable person. Perfect fodder for a Liberal Senate, though!

And so did that great Canadian and federalist, Danny Williams......

metallicat · 12-02-2008, 07:45 PM

I just want to mention about this 15 MP defection thing: I have NEVER been in favour of an MP crossing the floor to sit as an MP for another party after having been elected as a member in another one. That to me is completely wrong. I was against it with Stronach, and I was against it with Emerson. However, MPs defecting to become Independents, is completely different, so long as they are listening to their constituents best wishes.

transplant99 · 12-02-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

I just want to mention about this 15 MP defection thing: I have NEVER been in favour of an MP crossing the floor to sit as an MP for another party after having been elected as a member in another one. That to me is completely wrong. I was against it with Stronach, and I was against it with Emerson. However, MPs defecting to become Independents, is completely different, so long as they are listening to their constituents best wishes.

Agreed.

And even if every single one them votes against the budget and defeats the government on confidence...then so be it.

At least the elected representatives will have been heard...something the triumverate of democratic usurpers have no intention of seeing happen.

FanIn80 · 12-02-2008, 07:59 PM

Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but here's the video link to watch the repeat of today's Question Period.

http://www.cpac.ca/forms/index.asp?d...=e&clipID=2180

metallicat · 12-02-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but here's the video link to watch the repeat of today's Question Period.

http://www.cpac.ca/forms/index.asp?d...=e&clipID=2180

I think that is yesterday's. I have never been to cpac's website, so I don't know where to find today's.

FanIn80 · 12-02-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

I think that is yesterday's. I have never been to cpac's website, so I don't know where to find today's.

Doh. Yes, you're right.

http://www.cpac.ca/forms/index.asp?d...=e&clipID=2182

Only thing I could find for today was the day's "Scrums."

Edit: and omg what a ###### Dion is.

jolinar of malkshor · 12-02-2008, 08:10 PM

Does anyone know if Edmonton is going to have a rally as well? I am in Calgary till friday but almost tempted to stay another day to go to the rally.

First Lady · 12-02-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Does anyone know if Edmonton is going to have a rally as well? I am in Calgary till friday but almost tempted to stay another day to go to the rally.

-Queen's Park in Toronto: 12-2:00 PM
-Parliament Hill in Ottawa: between 12:00-2:00 pm
- Edmonton: Legislative Assembly of Alberta 12 - 2 pm
-Stephane Dion's office in Montreal (tentative)
-Robson Square in Vancouver (underway)
-Calgary City Hall 11:00 am - 1:00 pm
-Saskatoon City Hall (underway)
-Legislative Assembly of Manitoba in Winnipeg (underway)
-Halifax: Province House 12 - 2 pm
-Kitchener: Victoria Park 12 - 2 pm
-Victoria (underway)
-Windsor: City hall 12 - 2 pm
-Medicine Hat: City Hall 12 - 2 pm
-Red Deer: City Hall 12 - 2 pm
-London: City Hall 12 - 2 pm

V · 12-02-2008, 08:14 PM

Today's question period will be playing on the website at 9:00 mountain time.

Unfortunately I can't get the audio to work for any of the videos on this website, so I'm SOL...

First Lady · 12-02-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by V

Today's question period will be playing on the website at 9:00 mountain time.

Unfortunately I can't get the audio to work for any of the videos on this website, so I'm SOL...

You can get a taste of it here:

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/cons...os/#clip118013

Flame On · 12-02-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by octothorp

I hope that's true; seriously, this is the best case scenario. I don't want to see this coalition take power, but I also don't want to see a Conservative majority. A significant block of independents would force parliament to maintain the form in which it was elected: a fairly strong but not invincible conservative minority.

Conservative majority? WTF?!
So the "choice" is a tenuous coalition you don't want and wasn't voted for, or a smarmy and antagonistic non-leader gets a majority that wasn't voted for either?!
Oh and I'm sure all of CP will be up in arms over that coup too if it happens!