Actor Jason Beghe leaves and speaks out against Scientology

[@theCBE]

There is a scientology church (Ron L. Hubbard Academy) just down the street from where I live and for the last few Saturdays in a row they have people standing across the street from it picketing them and protesting against the church. I managed to snap a couple pics.

[metallicat]

Awesome video, hilarious stuff. What a moron.

[llama64]

Originally Posted by @theCBE

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I WANT FREE CAKE!

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Do Christians who throw cash into the church collection plate count? There's a reason John 3:16 is one of the most well-known Biblical passages:

In fairness, I think there's a big difference. Christians pay a tithe because charity is a virtue, and the idea is that the money goes toward the creation of a community, and to support the spiritual endeavor, etc. Also, it's not mandatory--no-one is standing at the door to collect a thousand dollars an hour for your sermon. I don't do it myself, but I can easily see how in Church, putting money in the collection plate just makes you feel a part of the community. I can see how it's spiritual--demonstrating your engagement with the faith community you're affiliated with.

On the other hand, scientologists pay thousands of dollars to someone who promises to make you into a super-human. That's not being spiritual--it's being a sucker.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Temporary_User

I would really love to take a religion course in university that dealt with Scientology. I'm not really religious, but how they get so many ppl do dedicate time/money/energy into something like this really interests me.

I took one. It was called "Cults of North America". It discussed the beliefs of cults in general, but also had representatives from Hare Krishnas, Moonies, Scientology, and an anti-cult group (which, interestingly, uses similar techniques to the cults they oppose) come in and speak. This was one of the most popular classes at school (McMaster) - people who weren't in the class would flood the lecture hall when the Hare Krishnas came to visit.

[Russic]

I'm not sure what's dumber: giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to a cult that promises to make you immortal or taking the role of Peter Macallister in "Home Alone 4".

[Locke]

Originally Posted by llama64

I WANT FREE CAKE!

I noticed that too, I WANT FREE CAKE TOO!

Or in South Park fashion....."Cake is not a criminal, he didnt do it, FREE CAKE!! FREE CAKE!!"

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by Locke

I wonder how he got past the minefield on the other side of the barbed-wire fence?

Don't forget the giant bubble!

[Thor]

Good job Jason.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Do Christians who throw cash into the church collection plate count? There's a reason John 3:16 is one of the most well-known Biblical passages:

For God so loved the world...?

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by peter12

For God so loved the world...?

If you follow the quoting, it makes sense.

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Those people are freaks.. Who spends cash and honestly believes they'll be immortal.. You gotta be pretty fing gullible to buy that load.

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Do Christians who throw cash into the church collection plate count? There's a reason John 3:16 is one of the most well-known Biblical passages:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

If you follow the quoting, it makes sense.



For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

I still don't see the connection between giving money as a charitable purpose and the notion of salvation in that verse.

Weak.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by peter12

I still don't see the connection between giving money as a charitable purpose and the notion of salvation in that verse.

Weak.

The point being made was that spending huge amounts of money to acheive a level of immortality is antithetical to the point of this verse.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by peter12

I still don't see the connection between giving money as a charitable purpose and the notion of salvation in that verse.

Weak.

I was responding to this statement:

Who spends cash and honestly believes they'll be immortal..

Christians believe that through their belief in Jesus they will be granted ever-lasting life in heaven after their death, hence, immortality. It says so right there in John 3:16.

Do you have to spend money to be a Christian? Not necessarily, but tithing is either mandatory or very strongly encouraged by some branches/denominations. It's not that much of a stretch to compare the practice to Scientology.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Do you have to spend money to be a Christian? Not necessarily, but tithing is either mandatory or very strongly encouraged by some branches/denominations. It's not that much of a stretch to compare the practice to Scientology.

I can't say I've ever experienced this. Any church I have ever been to has passed the collection plate around and that's about the extent of it. The pastor may quote a passage about charity, but that's as pushy as I've seen it. I'm sure some churches may be a little more forthright but in general I think Christians who tithe do so not strictly because they want to get to heaven but because they want to attend a place of worship that has heat and electricity. A lot of churches barely scrape by.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by icarus

I can't say I've ever experienced this. Any church I have ever been to has passed the collection plate around and that's about the extent of it. The pastor may quote a passage about charity, but that's as pushy as I've seen it. I'm sure some churches may be a little more forthright but in general I think Christians who tithe do so not strictly because they want to get to heaven but because they want to attend a place of worship that has heat and electricity. A lot of churches barely scrape by.

Also, there's a world of difference between a couple of bucks in a collection plate and 1000 dollars an hour to turn you into a superhuman.