08-20-2021, 01:41 PM
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#161
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
Well if he's as good as you think he is, we'll lose him next year as a UFA
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Or, because he has his best year ever, he re-signs with Daryl and the Flames. Yes he will be more expensive than if he sucked, but that is a good thing, no?
No guarantees that he will sign here, of course. But also not guaranteed that he would sign elsewhere.
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08-20-2021, 01:47 PM
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#162
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#1 Goaltender
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So will the defence pairings look something like this (assuming none of the current players are traded as part of a potential eichel trade)?
Hanifin-Tanev
Zadorov-Andersson
Valimaki-Stone(assuming he signs)
Extra: Mackey/Kylington/Kinnvall
Or alternatively:
Hanifin-Tanev
Valimaki-Andersson
Zadorov-Stone
Extra: Mackey/Kylington/Kinnvall
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08-20-2021, 01:48 PM
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#163
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
Or, because he has his best year ever, he re-signs with Daryl and the Flames. Yes he will be more expensive than if he sucked, but that is a good thing, no?
No guarantees that he will sign here, of course. But also not guaranteed that he would sign elsewhere.
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Wouldn't be the first guy who signs a deal at a decent price because he loves his fit.
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08-20-2021, 02:33 PM
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#164
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
So, you think Calgary purposely kept it to one year as they don't intend to sign him after the year?
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I think they kept it at one year to give them flexibility. Go to capfriendly, look at 2022-23, and punch in likely numbers for Tkachuk and Gaudreau. It’s ugly.
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08-20-2021, 02:42 PM
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#165
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
Super happy we didn’t give him a multi year contract
I predict he will be the most hated player by fans on the team this year
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Where is all the hate coming from? What's the big knock on the guy?
I've seen a few posters mention character issues. Not sure where the source is coming from?...
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08-20-2021, 03:02 PM
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#166
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by stemit14
So will the defence pairings look something like this (assuming none of the current players are traded as part of a potential eichel trade)?
Hanifin-Tanev
Zadorov-Andersson
Valimaki-Stone(assuming he signs)
Extra: Mackey/Kylington/Kinnvall
Or alternatively:
Hanifin-Tanev
Valimaki-Andersson
Zadorov-Stone
Extra: Mackey/Kylington/Kinnvall
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Valimaki Anderson would be a mistake IMO. Your first setup is probably what will happen.
Zadorov will not be in the bottom pairing.
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08-20-2021, 03:09 PM
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#167
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2008
Exp:  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
So will the defence pairings look something like this (assuming none of the current players are traded as part of a potential eichel trade)?
Hanifin-Tanev
Zadorov-Andersson
Valimaki-Stone(assuming he signs)
Extra: Mackey/Kylington/Kinnvall
Or alternatively:
Hanifin-Tanev
Valimaki-Andersson
Zadorov-Stone
Extra: Mackey/Kylington/Kinnvall
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Given how well Hanifin and Andersson have played together in the past, I'd prefer:
Hanifin-Andersson
Zadorov-Tanev
Valimaki-Kylington
Extra: Mackey/Kinvall/Stone?/Welinski
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08-20-2021, 03:21 PM
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#168
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First Line Centre
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Hanifin - Andersson
Valimaki - Tanev
Mackey - Zadorov
Kylington
We saw the strides Hughes and Hanifin made next to Tanev... why not allow Valimaki to do the same. Let's give our kids the opportunity to develop into high end players. Mackey deserves a full time spot too.
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08-20-2021, 03:23 PM
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#169
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
Hanifin - Andersson
Valimaki - Tanev
Mackey - Zadorov
Kylington
We saw the strides Hughes and Hanifin made next to Tanev... why not allow Valimaki to do the same. Let's give our kids the opportunity to develop into high end players. Mackey deserves a full time spot too.
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Well, then you either have Tanev playing semi-sheltered minutes or Valimaki playing shutdown minutes. Not ideal.
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08-20-2021, 03:32 PM
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#170
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Well, then you either have Tanev playing semi-sheltered minutes or Valimaki playing shutdown minutes. Not ideal.
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I don't disagree but game management is a thing. Valimaki/Hanifin can flip flop depending on the situation/score in the game. Having Hanifin/Tanev play consistent minutes together makes this d-core unnecessarily top heavy in my opinion. We are better off rolling three relatively strong pairings under Darryl. Defense by committee.
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08-20-2021, 03:35 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
I don't disagree but game management is a thing. Valimaki/Hanifin can flip flop depending on the situation/score in the game. Having Hanifin/Tanev play consistent minutes together makes this d-core unnecessarily top heavy in my opinion. We are better off rolling three relatively strong pairings under Darryl. Defense by committee.
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I suspect Sutter doesn't like changing pairings very much. Neither do Dmen, usually, if they have a partner they are used to (like Brodie).
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08-20-2021, 03:39 PM
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#172
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by shawnjohn
Where is all the hate coming from? What's the big knock on the guy?
I've seen a few posters mention character issues. Not sure where the source is coming from?...
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He’s simply not particularly good.
I do expect Sutter to get the most out of him though.
He would best be served playing the 5-6 role, not on the 2nd pairing.
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08-20-2021, 03:43 PM
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#173
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Franchise Player
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The odds that we’ll regret a one year deal on this player are slim at best.
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08-20-2021, 03:45 PM
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#174
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't want any of those guys either (maybe Savard).
It simply was a poor crop of UFAs this year.
The rest of your post is assuming a lot, and I don't necessarily agree that they wanted him here long term.
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That’s fair. My assumptions are probably way off. I would have thought they would have come to an agreement sooner if it was a one year that was the plan all along, as opposed to this close to the arb case. I like what he brings to our defense though. Would be good to have someone with a physical presence.
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08-20-2021, 03:46 PM
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#175
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
I don't think Tanev's play will suddenly drop off but last year was his first full season without getting hurt. Tanev plays a hard game and gets injured, most games he's played in a season is 70 and averages less than 60. Asking for two seasons in row with no injuries might be a little much. I think you have to assume he'll miss at least 10 games this year
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Why? Does he have a nagging recurring injury? A bunch of unrelated injuries could just be bad luck. You’d be just as likely to be right guaranteeing that a player would never be injured because he didn’t have a history of injuries.
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08-20-2021, 04:14 PM
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#176
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All I can get
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Would've liked to have seen a two year deal simply for continuity's sake, but can see why it's only one.
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08-20-2021, 04:28 PM
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#177
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Western Canada
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We need a defensive d-man with grit. We got it here. If he can be half of what Reggie was then I will be happy.
I think we will be pleased with his game. Especially in playoffs.
Only downside is we likely lose him for nothing ufa as we are in the mix for playoffs so can’t trade him, but can’t afford him on the open market. .
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08-20-2021, 05:03 PM
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#178
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Franchise Player
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Honestly, I was expecting something like 4 years... I think this is probably a better outcome than that, although 2years would have made it more likely to recoup what they spent to get him. But it still seems like a low-risk acquisition all around.
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08-20-2021, 05:21 PM
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#179
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Honestly, I was expecting something like 4 years... I think this is probably a better outcome than that, although 2years would have made it more likely to recoup what they spent to get him. But it still seems like a low-risk acquisition all around.
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I doubt that Zardrov had much interest in a two year deal.
It was either 1 year or 4+ years.
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08-20-2021, 05:43 PM
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#180
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Franchise Player
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just throwing this out there; the Blues were rumoured to be interested in Zadorov
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