[Signing] Flames sign Zadorov to 1 year deal worth $3.75 mil

[mile]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

There was no way he was ever getting signed for over 4M.

On a deal with term? Yes he would have.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by mile

On a deal with term? Yes he would have.

No, there was no way he was getting signed for over 4M. Hence the term.

If he comes in and plays well he earns more.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

As a reminder, a 3rd round pick has a very low shot of ever making the NHL, never mind playing a full season in a meaningful role. It's a small price to pay for a solid player who should fit well in Sutter's system.

Exactly, by my count there are 4 third round picks from the last three drafts still remaining in the prospect ranking. If the Flames struggle they will flip him at the deadline, pure rentals have good value, especially those with a reputation of physicality.



There is a lot of things to be frustrated about. But this ain't one.

[Kipper_3434]

I have high hopes for Zadorov w/ Sutter's system. If he has a career year this is a bad deal as we likely loose him or pony up big bucks. However, if his season is mediocre or bad I guess we can likely recoup the 3rd rounder as some people have said. Any comment for trliving on term or negotiations?

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

I'm glad he's signed, wish it was a little longer, but I'm excited to have him on the team. Like others have said, he's exactly what this team needs on the back-end. Big and tough.

Not to start an argument about nothing but what people have been saying this season is that we need more offense from the blue line. Hoping for vatanen

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by agulati

Free agency started on July 28th as well, I believe . The trade was made on the first day of free agency.

Again, I’m not saying any of the free agents might necessarily have been better than Zadorov, but the actual list of UFAs available wasn’t close to as bare bones as the one you posted.

David Savard, Alex Edler, Derek Forbort, Mike Reilly, Cody Ceci, Ian Cole were all available and signed to a cap hit not significantly different than Zadorov’s. Good chance some of them had no interest coming to Calgary though.

I don’t believe the flames only wanted to sign him to a one year contract, when they traded for him. Be it lack of due diligence, pressure of arbitration or conversations not making headway, walking him to UFA status is no where close to ideal.

I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't want any of those guys either (maybe Savard).

It simply was a poor crop of UFAs this year.

The rest of your post is assuming a lot, and I don't necessarily agree that they wanted him here long term.

[TheIronMaiden]

Zadorov is a one dimensional player, but it's a dimension the Flames D doesnt have.



People seem to have forgotten how easily the Avelanche and the Stars pushed around our defense.



Ther is room for "skilled" d men and there is equal room for physical d men. You need both.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Zadorov is a one dimensional player, but it's a dimension the Flames D doesnt have.



People seem to have forgotten how easily the Avelanche and the Stars pushed around our defense.



Ther is room for "skilled" d men and there is equal room for physical d men. You need both.

Skilled d men would have been the dimension I would say the Flames lack.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Skilled d men would have been the dimension I would say the Flames lack.

Obviously they dont have a serious goal scoring threat but Andersson, Hanifin and Valimaki each provide a lot of skill from the back end.


Other than Zadorov who provides physicality in the corner for the Flames D?

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Skilled d men would have been the dimension I would say the Flames lack.

I’d take a Zadorov over a Gustafson, but I’d prefer a player who could do both. But just look at the UFA deals out there, would have cost an arm and a leg. No thanks.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Obviously they dont have a serious goal scoring threat but Andersson, Hanifin and Valimaki each provide a lot of skill from the back end.


Other than Zadorov who provides physicality in the corner for the Flames D?

Physicality is another thing, but Andersson and Valimaki certainly didn't look like skilled defencemen last season.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Physicality is another thing, but Andersson and Valimaki certainly didn't look like skilled defencemen last season.

Andersson regressed, but he is 24 coming to next season, there is room for him to grow.


Valimaki has been a skilled offensive D man in every other league, I'm not going to pigeon hole him after his first NHL season.


That said, im not going to pretend the Flames have an offensive weapon like Makar or Fox ( that piece of ####) at their disposal. But I'm also not going to pretend the Flames D being butter soft is one of the reasons the Flames struggle against big Centers. The likes of Benn, MacKinnon and Draisaitl make small D men their bitch, the only way to stop them down low is to paste them against the boards.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Super happy we didn’t give him a multi year contract

I predict he will be the most hated player by fans on the team this year

This could be Zadorov's best season, at 26 he has a huge financial incentive to be his best and cash in as a UFA.

I predict he'll be a fan favorite after he crushes a few Oilers ala Regehr.

[djsFlames]

I feel like of Stone slots in as a regular he could put up 10 goals given Sutter likes him and would have him on the PP with the sole mission of wiring the puck.

[EVERLAST]

Wow....lots of grumpy gusses....Debbie Downers and fun gobblers in here.
I think we have a great D this year. I am actually excited about it.
Yeah losing Gio sucks huge salty donkey balls but I see Darryl at the helm....Muller is here now....Huska is good as well as Darryl wanted him in LA and Anaheim .
Valimaki will bounce back
Hanifin is a beast in the waiting
RAZ is going to be huge
Mackey by all accounts from everywhere he has been has impressed with his versatility.
Zadorov could be an adventure sure.....but he's a nuclear deterrent for goalie crashers.

Let's change the narrative around here and put our weapons down and stop the on going pissin contests that this place has become.....its getting yellow and smelly around here.

[edslunch]

Him: I like it here but I want more money/term

Them: We like you but we’re not prepared to give you money or term until we see the fit

Both: Let’s do a one year and re-evaluate

Could be a double show me contract

[868904]

Hard to hate this deal.

If he excels under Sutter, I don't see why Zadarov wouldn't want to sign long term. The guy has bounced around a bit and if he's comfortable with a coach, system and team, there is no reason for him to bolt.

As for signing a guy like Vatanen for the powerplay or to increase the skill. The guy had 6 points last year. He had 23 and 17 points the two previous seasons before. How is he going to bring offense to this team? I feel like many posters just work off of their past old memories of players and never look at what they've done lately.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Wow. Doubling down? Including year 2? Interesting

With all due respect to Scorpion, who provides a lot of great content, he does have a particular bias when it comes to style of players. Loves the Phillips type. Hates Zadorov/Tanev, etc.

I suspect Tanev will be great at the price for the majority of his contract. He plays a smart defensive game.

Zadorov - it's funny. The negative types were all bemoaning his $4.5 multi year contract they all predicted and/or his arbitration. Now they are saying $3.75 is too much and a year is too little. and they complain that Treliving has not made moves when this deal clearly leaves him some cap flexibility short term and long term.

The other thing to keep in mind is that Zadorov plays left handed LD (though he is capable off playing his off side). Long term the team has Hanifin and hopefully Valimaki. Long term the Flames have Tanev and Rasmus on the right. You don't want to be saddled with a big contract on your bottom pair. So I see this as a show me year for Zadorov and Valimaki both.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Long term would have cost over 4 for sure... Harmonic cost 3M

I think some of you underestimate this player, reminds me of the Tanev talk last year.

Tanev had proved quite a bit before

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by edslunch

Him: I like it here but I want more money/term

Them: We like you but we’re not prepared to give you money or term until we see the fit

Both: Let’s do a one year and re-evaluate

Could be a double show me contract

They ought to all be like this......Eat bread had to show Tre .....he did and goddammit.....that bread is good.