06-03-2022, 04:36 AM
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#741
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I see Kylinton more important for transition, and potentially taking over the top PP. Only way to sign Zadorov, is if you can get a PP specialist cheap on the 3rd line
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06-03-2022, 10:26 AM
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#742
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CSharp
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So Z moves to either first or second line pairing. Mackey goes to 3rd pairing with Gudbransson (if signed).
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I don't like even thinking of Z playing top 4 dmen minutes.
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06-05-2022, 12:32 AM
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#743
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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I think I saw Z in East Village today so he's still in town.
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06-05-2022, 02:58 AM
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#744
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
I think I saw Z in East Village today so he's still in town.
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His kids are likely still in school.
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06-05-2022, 06:31 AM
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#745
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
I think I saw Z in East Village today so he's still in town.
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Would he even want to go back to Russia?
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06-05-2022, 07:03 AM
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#746
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Would he even want to go back to Russia?
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Pretty sure that he stays in NA full time now and has done so since he was in Colorado.
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06-05-2022, 09:21 PM
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#747
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Didn't he marry a Canadian girl?
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06-06-2022, 12:35 AM
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#748
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sandman
Didn't he marry a Canadian girl?
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No. She’s Russian
IIRC he has a place in Florida
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06-06-2022, 06:15 AM
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#749
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames1217
Pretty sure that he stays in NA full time now and has done so since he was in Colorado.
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He seems like one of the smart ones. I get the family angle but it always surprises me how many Russians choose to go back there to live.
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06-06-2022, 07:40 AM
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#750
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Franchise Player
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Saw some documentary on big Z.
He's actually quite a well spoken man, very family orientated.
What struck me most was his desire to adopt kids rather than have a bunch themselves. I think he has a few kids and only 1 is his own, he said he would rather give a good life to kids who weren't able to or something along those lines.
Only here for 1 year but seemed like a quality guy.
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06-06-2022, 01:30 PM
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#751
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Zadorov is going to get way more in free agency than the Flames can afford, and that's likely for the best. I think what we saw from him this year was the best he can offer, and frankly I don't think it was worth $2.5 million. I suspect he gets well north of $4m.
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06-06-2022, 01:38 PM
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#752
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Zadorov is going to get way more in free agency than the Flames can afford, and that's likely for the best. I think what we saw from him this year was the best he can offer, and frankly I don't think it was worth $2.5 million. I suspect he gets well north of $4m.
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what on earth were you watching
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06-06-2022, 01:42 PM
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#753
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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I don’t see how Zadorov gets term at $4+. I’d really like for the Flames to find a way to bring him back, but that’s assuming it’s reasonable.
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06-06-2022, 02:21 PM
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#754
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
what on earth were you watching
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He was a bottom pairing defenceman.
I quite like Z, but you can’t sink money into your 3rd pairing and also afford the talent up front.
Gaudreau and Tkachuk’s contracts mean we will absolutely not be spending the ~$5.5M on our 3rd pairing we did this past season.
Even if we did have the cap space, our defensive depth was also exposed as being lacking because the moment we lost a 2nd pairing guy, neither Z nor Gudbranson could come close to filling the hole left. We had the luxury of overpaying a 3rd pairing this year - but that luxury is gone.
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06-06-2022, 02:24 PM
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#755
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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I'll miss his end to end rushes where he circles around the opponent's net and then blindly throws the puck into the slot.
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06-06-2022, 02:31 PM
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#756
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
He was a bottom pairing defenceman.
I quite like Z, but you can’t sink money into your 3rd pairing and also afford the talent up front.
Gaudreau and Tkachuk’s contracts mean we will absolutely not be spending the ~$5.5M on our 3rd pairing we did this past season.
Even if we did have the cap space, our defensive depth was also exposed as being lacking because the moment we lost a 2nd pairing guy, neither Z nor Gudbranson could come close to filling the hole left. We had the luxury of overpaying a 3rd pairing this year - but that luxury is gone.
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Doesn't change the fact his is worth way more than 2.5M
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06-06-2022, 02:52 PM
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#757
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Doesn't change the fact his is worth way more than 2.5M
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Agreed.
If you're shopping for a top four defenseman out of the 3rd pairing group because you don't want to pay say $5.5M or more Zadorov would jump off the page.
Huge.
Physical.
Young
1st in dmen in the whole league at CF%, and 20th in xGA60.
Sure he's sheltered, but when you're looking to take that "he's ready for more" flyer, he's near the top of the list.
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06-06-2022, 02:57 PM
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#758
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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The reason the Flames were able to get Zadorov for a third to begin with was because teams had already taken the flyer on him as a "ready for more" guy and it did not go well.
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06-06-2022, 03:04 PM
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#759
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
The reason the Flames were able to get Zadorov for a third to begin with was because teams had already taken the flyer on him as a "ready for more" guy and it did not go well.
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And you don't think the most recent season will hold more weight? I do. Trajectories change all the time.
It's not like Zadorov has been out of work. Acquired by Chicago, acquired by Calgary. Career high in points, and while sheltered first in CF%, and 20th in xGA60.
I'm not even saying he's ready for more, just expecting someone is/will.
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06-06-2022, 03:04 PM
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#760
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
The reason the Flames were able to get Zadorov for a third to begin with was because teams had already taken the flyer on him as a "ready for more" guy and it did not go well.
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But it did...see the stats above
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