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Old 08-20-2021, 05:47 PM   #181
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Tanev did play a chunk of last season with broken ribs IIRC
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Old 08-20-2021, 05:52 PM   #182
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just throwing this out there; the Blues were rumoured to be interested in Zadorov
I'll bite...

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I dunno, whatever.
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Old 08-20-2021, 06:17 PM   #183
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Why? Does he have a nagging recurring injury? A bunch of unrelated injuries could just be bad luck. You’d be just as likely to be right guaranteeing that a player would never be injured because he didn’t have a history of injuries.
I think 7 consecutive years of not playing more than 70 games indicates it’s not bad luck. His style of play leads to a lot of injuries, constantly blocking shots at all cost takes its toll, I’m not saying it as an insult, you just have to have realistic expectations. He plays a tough game, tough games leads to injuries. If he makes it to 82 that’s great, I just think it’s unlikely because it’s never happened and he averages below 60
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Old 08-20-2021, 06:20 PM   #184
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Probably worth a mention that although he played all 56 games, he also reportedly took a hit in Winnipeg this season with 1 1/2 months left, broke a couple of ribs and tore a pec

So even when he played all the games, he was injured then too
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Probably worth a mention that although he played all 56 games, he also reportedly took a hit in Winnipeg this season with 1 1/2 months left, broke a couple of ribs and tore a pec

So even when he played all the games, he was injured then too
All the stuff that Sutter loves. I remember hearing a few interviews from his former players that said Darryl had a way to motivate you even IF you were hurt he still had demands on you reasonable or not.

Tanev was awesome last year and I cannot remember the last time we acquired a player that stepped in and performed that well ......I actually wouldn't mind him being captain.
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:26 PM   #186
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just throwing this out there; the Blues were rumoured to be interested in Zadorov

He was available for basically nothing. Seattle passed on him, the Blues could have let them know they would give up a draft pick for him.


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Old 08-20-2021, 07:27 PM   #187
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Tanev did play a chunk of last season with broken ribs IIRC
Dude was an absolute stud before the injury, and still quietly solid afterward.

Pretty impressive all things considered.
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:31 PM   #188
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What are people's pairings for next season? Would you keep Hanifin and Tanev together as they were all-worldly before Noah went down, or split them up to keep the top two pairings solid in their own end?
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:35 PM   #189
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What are people's pairings for next season? Would you keep Hanifin and Tanev together as they were all-worldly before Noah went down, or split them up to keep the top two pairings solid in their own end?
I probably go...

Hanifin - Tanev

Hopefully let Hanifin find more offense paired with a defensive stalwart

Zadorov - Andersson

Same thing here, really

Valimaki - XXXXX

Best out of Mackey, Kylington, Kinvall, or anyone else they happen to bring in.
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:43 PM   #190
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I probably go...

Hanifin - Tanev

Hopefully let Hanifin find more offense paired with a defensive stalwart

Zadorov - Andersson

Same thing here, really

Valimaki - XXXXX

Best out of Mackey, Kylington, Kinvall, or anyone else they happen to bring in.

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Old 08-20-2021, 07:46 PM   #191
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Stone with Valimaki and Kinvall rotating as the #6 is my ideal third pairing.

I think Kinvall is that darkhorse prospect that is seasoned and quietly already on the cusp.
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:59 PM   #192
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Stone with Valimaki and Kinvall rotating as the #6 is my ideal third pairing.

I think Kinvall is that darkhorse prospect that is seasoned and quietly already on the cusp.
I think I’d like to see:

Hanifin - Andersson
Valimaki - Tanev
Kylington - Zadarov

I don’t think Zadarov is a top-four defenceman on a playoff team, and placing Valimaki with Tanev is the best spot for him and his development. It’s asking a lot of Hanifin, Andersson, and Valimaki but that’s just the situation this team is in.
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Are there comparable defenseman with zero offence that make 4 mill a year? If we are structuring our team around low event hockey does a player with a reputation for taking too many penalties match that structure?
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:01 PM   #194
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I like what Zadorov brings, but I am not sure he is the kind of player you want to invest in long term. See if it's a fit, then offer him an extension. If not, there are always players like him available.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:06 PM   #195
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From a pure asset management perspective was hoping for at least 2 years even if the salary was high. Just feels like they flushed the 3rd tbh. Team is not a cup contender this year so why give up picks for a stopgap.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:08 PM   #196
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From a pure asset management perspective was hoping for at least 2 years even if the salary was high. Just feels like they flushed the 3rd tbh. Team is not a cup contender this year so why give up picks for a stopgap.
I think they are in denial.

Fake it 'til ya make it I guess.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:13 PM   #197
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Are there comparable defenseman with zero offence that make 4 mill a year? If we are structuring our team around low event hockey does a player with a reputation for taking too many penalties match that structure?
There are several I can think of, but I don't want to argue about who is a better comparable and who brings more offense. I went off points, and not analytics so this list is up for debate:

Jamie Oleksiak @ 4.6M

Olli Maata @ 4.083M
Adam Larsson @ 4M
Joel Edmundson @ 3.5M

David Savard @ 3.5M
Dylan DeMelo @ 3M

Ian Cole(?) @ 2.9M was 4.25M

last season Niklas Hjalmarsson @ 5M
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:21 PM   #198
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Are there comparable defenseman with zero offence that make 4 mill a year? If we are structuring our team around low event hockey does a player with a reputation for taking too many penalties match that structure?
McCabe, Larson, Carlo, Maata
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:21 PM   #199
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This is a good deal. He fills a need, and a try before you buy approach makes sense. It also keeps the cap low giving them more flexibility to make improvements in other areas.

If he is a great fit, we will extend him. If not, the damage is limited.

Did fans really expect we were going into the season with Tanev, Andersson, Hanafin, Valamki, Kylington, Mackay?
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:28 PM   #200
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So basically, he doesn't want to be a Flame. Hopefully he plays hard for his big pay day next off season.
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