09-24-2023, 12:52 PM
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#8161
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
He put up 56 last year with both Lindholm and Kadri in front of him; throw in a new PP/offensive coach with Savard and Backs likely being the center on the 2nd unit and I don’t think it’s that far fetched. Especially if Backs gets the adrenaline rush of finally officially becoming captain.
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I doubt he hits a new career high at age 34.
He's more like to only hit high 40's than get to 60.
And that would be just fine.
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09-24-2023, 01:23 PM
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#8162
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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60 point player? Since when??? 56 last year was his best ever....at 34 years old. 39 points the year before. His average is like 44 points per 82 games....and he's 34. He isn't going to be improving on that and signing him to even 4 million is a stretch.
I would rather find a GM that believes Backlund is a 60 point player and Fleece them in a trade than sign him at this point.
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09-24-2023, 02:02 PM
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#8163
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Yeah I don’t want to pay for Backlund for his play when he was 33. Pay him for what you expect in his 35 and 36 seasons if it’s a two year deal.
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09-24-2023, 02:52 PM
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#8164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
60 point player? Since when??? 56 last year was his best ever....at 34 years old. 39 points the year before. His average is like 44 points per 82 games....and he's 34. He isn't going to be improving on that and signing him to even 4 million is a stretch.
I would rather find a GM that believes Backlund is a 60 point player and Fleece them in a trade than sign him at this point.
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The trade market for Backlund and others was already canvassed and no team with a need for those players has the cap room for them.
There is a reason why our UFA's have not been traded nor signed.
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09-24-2023, 03:14 PM
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#8165
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Kadri played mostly with Huberdeau.
The only reason that Backlund 'played ahead' of him, was because he played as well as anyone on the team - he was, along with Toffoli, their best forward.
Pretty good for a 3rd line C, I would say.
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Which only shows how bad the team played last year. Backlund is not the 2nd best forward on this team. He had an outlier career year, it happens.
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09-24-2023, 03:43 PM
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#8166
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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If there's no trade market for them, there won't be a huge market for them as a UFA, so they shouldn't need a big contract.
The team needs to move on and get younger, not keep the same team together and get older.
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09-24-2023, 03:53 PM
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#8167
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Franchise Player
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If there is some delusion with this team that makes them think they could win the cup this year, then sure don’t trade your UFA’s, BUT don’t extend any of the 28 year old plus ones. At this point, I’d rather they let them walk for free then sign any old veteran on a long term contract.
I’ll take the cap space.
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09-24-2023, 04:34 PM
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#8168
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Oakville, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 868904
If there is some delusion with this team that makes them think they could win the cup this year, then sure don’t trade your UFA’s, BUT don’t extend any of the 28 year old plus ones. At this point, I’d rather they let them walk for free then sign any old veteran on a long term contract.
I’ll take the cap space.
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I feel the same way but it’s clear thats not the direction the organization is going to pick.
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09-24-2023, 09:17 PM
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#8169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
If there's no trade market for them, there won't be a huge market for them as a UFA, so they shouldn't need a big contract.
The team needs to move on and get younger, not keep the same team together and get older.
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Big difference, as cap goes up next year. Plus lesser teams may have an interest if no assets need to be given up.
Plus no guarantee they sign with Calgary.
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09-24-2023, 09:33 PM
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#8170
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
The trade market for Backlund and others was already canvassed and no team with a need for those players has the cap room for them.
There is a reason why our UFA's have not been traded nor signed.
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I think the simplest answer is that the Flames don't want to cut bait with Lindholm, Backlund, or Hanifin yet and are hoping they get them signed 20 games in.
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09-25-2023, 01:55 AM
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#8171
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
I think the simplest answer is that the Flames don't want to cut bait with Lindholm, Backlund, or Hanifin yet and are hoping they get them signed 20 games in.
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They also haven’t received any offer they thought worry.
Moving players with cap for value has been virtually impossible this year.
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09-25-2023, 03:37 AM
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#8172
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Another grain of salt moment:
James Wilson of nhltraderumors speculates that the Avs may circle back to Mikael Backlund, with D Samuel Girard coming back. The latest info seems to be that Backs will sign with the Flames, but if he was still on his way out, this would be a good scenario. Girard has been buried a bit on the Avs, with Makar and Toews ahead of him on the depth chart, but he's a swift-skating, puck-moving offensive D with great hockey sense who could blossom with more responsibility. It would make even more sense if the team plans to move Hanifin at some point.
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09-25-2023, 05:42 AM
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#8173
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
If there's no trade market for them, there won't be a huge market for them as a UFA, so they shouldn't need a big contract.
The team needs to move on and get younger, not keep the same team together and get older.
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People like to spend when it’s ‘free’
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09-25-2023, 09:47 AM
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#8175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
Another grain of salt moment:
James Wilson of nhltraderumors speculates that the Avs may circle back to Mikael Backlund, with D Samuel Girard coming back. The latest info seems to be that Backs will sign with the Flames, but if he was still on his way out, this would be a good scenario. Girard has been buried a bit on the Avs, with Makar and Toews ahead of him on the depth chart, but he's a swift-skating, puck-moving offensive D with great hockey sense who could blossom with more responsibility. It would make even more sense if the team plans to move Hanifin at some point.
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I am a big fan of Girard. He is a smooth skater and enjoys having the puck on his stick. Prone to a few bad passes now and then but in general he moves a team in the right direction . Only 25 too...
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09-25-2023, 10:00 AM
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#8176
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I am a big fan of Girard. He is a smooth skater and enjoys having the puck on his stick. Prone to a few bad passes now and then but in general he moves a team in the right direction . Only 25 too...
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Only one year younger than Hanifin
How do they compare?
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09-25-2023, 10:03 AM
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#8177
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Franchise Player
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If you can get a player like Girard for Backlund - straight up - you make that deal every day that ends in "y". No brainer and makes the market stronger for Hanifin.
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09-25-2023, 10:04 AM
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#8178
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Isn't Girard always injured? Concussion issues?
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09-25-2023, 10:15 AM
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#8179
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Franchise Player
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He’s not physically robust, no.
The Habs have been rumoured to be interested in Girard. Maybe a three-way deal could be worked out.
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09-25-2023, 10:31 AM
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#8180
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
He’s not physically robust, no.
The Habs have been rumoured to be interested in Girard. Maybe a three-way deal could be worked out.
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Maybe we'll get Monahan back...
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