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View Poll Results: Should Treliving be Fired
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05-03-2016, 10:12 AM
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#61
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GOAT!
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Came into thread expecting a "just kidding..."
Left disappointed. 0/10 would not read again.
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05-03-2016, 10:12 AM
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#62
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Powerplay Quarterback
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No
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05-03-2016, 10:12 AM
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#63
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Paging This Post is Terrible - your services are required.
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05-03-2016, 10:13 AM
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#64
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Came into thread expecting a "just kidding..."
Left disappointed. 0/10 would not read again.
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You're just kidding... right?
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05-03-2016, 10:13 AM
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#65
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Treliving did give Hartley "statistically average goaltending" this year. Because that is what those three were in 2014-15. You are using hindsight to demand Treliving be fired because he was unable to predict the future.
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absolutely not.
It was clear in October that the goaltenders were not stepping up to be the #1 guy that the team needed. None of the three of them.
That's when the evaluation by Treliving should start. He made the decision to stay status quo and not make a move.
it failed.
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05-03-2016, 10:13 AM
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#66
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
This is easily the dumbest thread of the year.
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Took the words right out of my mouth. One of the dumbest threads I've ever seen on this message board, in fact.
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05-03-2016, 10:14 AM
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#67
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Yes, you are right. Goaltending fell off a cliff. It's up to the GM to make evaluations and make changes.
It was also stated on the CBC HNIC hotstove that the goalie market is pending Calgary to make it's move. There were options out there, Treliving made the decision not to make any moves.
If were evaluating Hartley on the decisions he made, then Treliving is in the same boat and he failed on the undisputed #1 issue the Flames had this year.
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The season was already done before we reached the quarter pole. So in terms of making moves, you have two choices:
1. Pay inflated prices during the season when you know it won't get you anywhere.
2. Ride it out and wait for the summer when the market will have more options at lower prices.
Sometimes it is wiser to cut your losses. I think he's known since about late October that we need something better for 2016-17, but rather than toss away assets in a desperate bid to save a lost season, he chose to wait. Lets at least see what this summer brings, eh?
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05-03-2016, 10:14 AM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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No he should not be fired....
However, the Flames organization made a poor choice last season with the goaltenders (i.e. going into the season with 3)
Flames need to correct the problem and acquire a #1 goaltender.
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05-03-2016, 10:14 AM
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#69
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Good lord no. Probably the best GM we've had in my 20 years of watching
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I may have agreed in September, but have changed my mind over the course of the season.
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05-03-2016, 10:15 AM
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Why don't you just rename the thread the Brad Treliving discussion thread to save face.
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05-03-2016, 10:15 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
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Never been this satisfied with a GM, and you want him gone?
No! NO!
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05-03-2016, 10:16 AM
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#72
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
I may have agreed in September, but have changed my mind over the course of the season.
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Do you want to fire Burke, too?
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05-03-2016, 10:16 AM
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#73
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
The season was already done before we reached the quarter pole. So in terms of making moves, you have two choices:
1. Pay inflated prices during the season when you know it won't get you anywhere.
2. Ride it out and wait for the summer when the market will have more options at lower prices.
Sometimes it is wiser to cut your losses. I think he's known since about late October that we need something better for 2016-17, but rather than toss away assets in a desperate bid to save a lost season, he chose to wait. Lets at least see what this summer brings, eh?
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Agreed with everything you said. Totally understand it. And the reason the season was over was the goaltending.
So why does Hartley get left holding the bag for a decision beyond his control?
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05-03-2016, 10:16 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by AcGold
Stealing Dougie earned him 2 years, it was a genius move that is still baffling.
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It was a good acquisition, but it's not like he got him for free.
In the end, a GM has to be judged by the end results and not moves in isolation. It's all about the big picture.
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05-03-2016, 10:16 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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WRong thread
Last edited by btimbit; 05-03-2016 at 10:19 AM.
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05-03-2016, 10:17 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Should Treliving Be Fired?
I've been browsing CP for approximately 6 years and I can confidently say that this is the first time I've seen a thread and actually thought it was a joke/meme
This thread makes CP look embarrassing, good grief
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05-03-2016, 10:19 AM
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#77
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Agreed with everything you said. Totally understand it. And the reason the season was over was the goaltending.
So why does Hartley get left holding the bag for a decision beyond his control?
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That's where you're getting it wrong:
Hartley wasn't fired because of the goaltending. He was fired because of his poor player utilization, resistance to change, and a need for a new voice in the room.
You're right: goaltending was out of his control this year. But there were so many other variables that were in his grasp which he controlled poorly. That's what led to his firing.
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05-03-2016, 10:19 AM
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#78
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
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Also it's good to remember: Hartley wasn't Trelivings choice, he was Feasters, lets see what kind of choices he can do on the coaching team.
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05-03-2016, 10:20 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Reimer is who I would have gone after and tried out on a low risk move.
Ward had an expiring contract
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So I'm understanding you...
You want Treliving fired because he didn't spend an asset to get Cam Ward or James Reimer midseason when a) they wouldn't have been enough to reverse the team's fortunes in December or January anyway and b) he could get either for free on July 1.
Glad you're not the GM.
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05-03-2016, 10:21 AM
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#80
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
So I'm understanding you...
You want Treliving fired because he didn't spend an asset to get Cam Ward or James Reimer midseason when a) they wouldn't have been enough to reverse the team's fortunes in December or January anyway and b) he could get either for free on July 1.
Glad you're not the GM.
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Actually, if you read the original post I say that he probably shouldn't be fired.
But if we're going to start pointing fingers for last season, the conversation should start with him and not the coach.
So if we're going to fire the coach, then he should be right along side because it was Treliving that failed to address the biggest problem the team had this year - goaltending.
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