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View Poll Results: Should Treliving be Fired
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Yes
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05-03-2016, 01:02 PM
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#201
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Ack! I thought the title said "Should Treliving have fired Hartley?" Voted yes.
-1 to the yes vote.
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05-03-2016, 01:02 PM
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#202
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: losing CPHL bets
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gord Wappel
I just wanted to check how gullible you little fascists were.
Stupider than I expected.
More of you than I expected
Thank you for completing our survey
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05-03-2016, 01:06 PM
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#203
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
To me, the most perplexing non-move was keeping the goaltending and special teams coaches. The two biggest problems with the team and they stay?
If Treliving is turning over the keys for his new coach to make his own hires, the HC seems more likely to be a retread, imo.
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Agree goal tending and special teams were a mess. Gelinas shouldn't get a free pass. Not sure what direction Treliving decides on new HC. Retread, established Asst, or impact name. Also this team has not been built as a grinder physical team so the new HC should be selected based on our roster and adding some sandpaper players if that is the direction Treliving wants to go. But as is this team is soft on the 3rd and 4th line.
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05-03-2016, 01:08 PM
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#204
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: ...the bench
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BT strikes me as a straight shooter.
His presser about Gios injury, no hiding, or 'upper body' or 're-evaluate in a couple weeks' was refreshing. As was his reasoning for trading Sven ('he wasn't going to re-sign here').
Maybe he's 'slimy' to you, but put me in the camp that has a different impression of the man.
Maybe you think KK is BT?
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05-03-2016, 01:10 PM
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#205
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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My reading of the situation was that Hartley was let go and Cloutier would not be returning and I sort of gathered that Hartley was fired and other decisions would likely wait until a new head coach was hired but that perhaps Cloutier just decided to step aside, go out on his own terms and make his own future. I don't know if that is accurate, it's just what I read between the lines.
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05-03-2016, 01:11 PM
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#206
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gord Wappel
I just wanted to check how gullible you little fascists were.
Stupider than I expected.
More of you than I expected
Thank you for completing our survey
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This was done in jest I'm guessing
Otherwise, ... dude seriously?
Agree with my view or you're stupid and a fascist?
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05-03-2016, 01:11 PM
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#207
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
I don't like the guy I don't have to elaborate because you don't like it. Slimy, weasel, rat, fink, worm pick one that is my "opinion" of the guy.
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Lol. Good logic.
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05-03-2016, 01:13 PM
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#208
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
I voted 'No' but I don't think he's been the best GM. He's made some good moves but the Hamilton deal was a mistake.
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Do you mean the trade or the signing?
Either way I think getting a top tier dman locked up is a good thing. He has made mistakes (Bollig, Raymond, and Setoguchi) but neither the trade for Hamilton nor his signing would be one of them.
Based on the Russell trade alone, I'm willing to give Treliving several more years.
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05-03-2016, 01:13 PM
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#209
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gord Wappel
I just wanted to check how gullible you little fascists were.
Stupider than I expected.
More of you than I expected
Thank you for completing our survey
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Scratch that - this is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.
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05-03-2016, 01:13 PM
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#210
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benched
BT strikes me as a straight shooter.
His presser about Gios injury, no hiding, or 'upper body' or 're-evaluate in a couple weeks' was refreshing. As was his reasoning for trading Sven ('he wasn't going to re-sign here').
Maybe he's 'slimy' to you, but put in the camp that has a different impression of the man.
Maybe you think KK is BT?
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KKing nope met him at least 20-30 times. The first 3 or so seasons I thought this guy is endearing. Overtime we "my family and friends" formed the opinion he is disingenuous to listen to and converse with.
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05-03-2016, 01:14 PM
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#211
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
KKing nope met him at least 20-30 times. The first 3 or so seasons I thought this guy is endearing. Overtime we "my family and friends" formed the opinion he is disingenuous to listen to and converse with.
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I find that most salesman are, and he strikes me as a salesman
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05-03-2016, 01:17 PM
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#212
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Originally Posted by Southside
My reading of the situation was that Hartley was let go and Cloutier would not be returning and I sort of gathered that Hartley was fired and other decisions would likely wait until a new head coach was hired but that perhaps Cloutier just decided to step aside, go out on his own terms and make his own future. I don't know if that is accurate, it's just what I read between the lines.
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Why not just clean house now though? Which incoming head coach in his right mind would keep the goaltending/special teams assistants from the 30th ranked team?
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05-03-2016, 01:18 PM
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#213
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Scratch that - this is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.
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Oh that's nothing. I'm betting you never read anything by springs1.
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05-03-2016, 01:19 PM
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#214
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I find that most salesman are, and he strikes me as a salesman
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That's is a perfect analysis.
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05-03-2016, 01:22 PM
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#215
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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It's crazy to me that people actually think he deserves to be fired - the guy has barely been here for two full seasons.
No patience at all to let a GM do his work and actually put his mark on the team - even Feaster had 3 1/2 years in the organization.
The guy has made the following trades in just two years to help set this team up:
Russell for Jokipakka, Pollock, & 2nd
Hudler for 2nd & 4th
Granlund for Shinkaruk
1st & 2 2nds for Hamilton
Baertschi for a 2nd
Glencross for a 2nd & 3rd
The only trade I think he would probably want to take back would be Bollig for a 3rd rounder.
In terms of UFA signings we have seen him sign - Raymond, Frolik, & Engelland. Not great in that department but at least for Raymond and Engelland the contracts expire after this season - and really Engelland has been a good bottom pairing d-man for this team.
I still like the Frolik deal - he showed flashes this season and I think that one could still really help the team moving forward.
The drafting continues to look positive as well (from the early returns) :
2014: Bennett, McDonald, Smith, Hickey, Ollas-Mattson, Carroll
2015: Andersson, Kylington, Karnaukov, Mangiapane, Bruce
Honestly outside of not locking up the goaltending issue over the summer (even then at the time I didn't want them to spend assets on Talbot or Jones), I don't think there is a real mistake that Treliving has made in his time here.
The thing that people are missing with the Hartley firing is that you couldn't give him another year to prove himself without extending him. If the team truly doesn't like him or want to play for him then they wouldn't respond to his coaching with him on a one year lame duck contract.
But if you aren't 100% sold on him being the coach of the future for this team then it makes no sense to give him another extension.
It was a tough decision I'm sure for the GM but I think in the long run this may have been the right decision.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 05-03-2016 at 01:30 PM.
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05-03-2016, 01:22 PM
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#216
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Franchise Player
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They question should be "are you a CP troll"
Results would be about the same short of a couple selection errors
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05-03-2016, 01:24 PM
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#217
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Scratch that - this is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.
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You haven't been here long.
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05-03-2016, 01:37 PM
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#218
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Powerplay Quarterback
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What's next? Should Burke be fired?
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05-03-2016, 01:38 PM
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#219
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
That's is a perfect analysis.
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that's not an analysis... literally nothing is being analyzed in that post.
that post is pure irrational emotion.
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05-03-2016, 01:49 PM
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#220
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Lifetime Suspension
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Stay Golden and Gord Wappel really took the heat off killer_carlson.
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