2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Imported_Aussie]

I think breaking up the 3M line is worth a shot, as I think that playing with two vets with complete games like Backlund and Frolik is the best way to ease in younger players. I think maybe starting Jankwoski on the wing with those two to get him settled would be a good move.

If Brouwer is exposed and taken:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk*
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Ferland* - Bennett - Lazar

That would be 3 lines that have balance, with the top line being a skill/scoring line that is fast and the 3rd line being even faster and chippier. Then it depends on who is retained/signed/makes the team for the 4th line, but that could possibly be:
Bouma - Stajan - Hathaway/Hamilton

And if Versteeg is signed, he is insurance if Jankowski doesn't make team, bringing a little shuffle, which could look like:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk*
Frolik - Backlund - Lazar
Ferland* - Bennett - Versteeg

Either way, I think there is opportunity for Tkachuk to "graduate" from his "finishing school" on the Backlund line and a new guy looking to get established takes that place.

*If Tkachuk doesn't fit on his off-wing, then Ferland goes back there.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Any one of those guys. I can't see Vegas wanting the $7M per on Dion's contract.

I think the Sens are stuck with Dion and Bobby for the life of those deals

Dion is a good player, valuble if they eat some of that deal IMO

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So the longer we all go without hearing about a goalie, the better for those that want Fleury.

But that would also mean the Flames need to find one to protect. Signing a backup would likely come this week in that case, correct?

They don't have to protect a goalie, they just have to have one exposed that meets the expansion requirments

[getbak]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

They don't have to protect a goalie, they just have to have one exposed that meets the expansion requirments

They do have to protect a goalie (one of the media guys confirmed this with the league). They could protect either Elliott or Johnson if they don't acquire a signed goalie by Sunday morning.

[Atodaso]

What about a Martin Jones like switcharoo?

Fleury gets traded to/selected by Vegas while acquiring whatever Pittsburgh offered, then flips Fleury to Philadelphia. Provided Fleury's NMC doesn't prevent it.

[Vinny01]

Oh Eklund

Flames, Vegas, Kings in on Fleury. Kings obviously need a $5.75M back up goalie

Oh yeah and the Flames are possibly in on Bonino as well. It is not like we have Monahan, Backlund, Bennett, Stajan, and Jankowski already

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by getbak

They do have to protect a goalie (one of the media guys confirmed this with the league). They could protect either Elliott or Johnson if they don't acquire a signed goalie by Sunday morning.

Got a link? I haven't heard any one else say that. Seems odd they'd force you to protect someone in a position you have no one for.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Got a link? I haven't heard any one else say that. Seems odd they'd force you to protect someone in a position you have no one for.

Protecting Elliott is just a paper transaction. He's still Flames property for a few weeks. It's not really relevant in any way.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Wow, what a nice guy. Hey Pens, thanks for giving me that NMC and then pushing me out the door for some other guy. You don't want to have to buy me out and pay me millions extra to be rid of me, I totally understand and I just love you guys so very much I will forgo the millions, waive my NMC, and you can jettison me to an expansion team that has no chance of competing for the duration of my contract.

Should be noted that the NMC clause for Fleury is a modified and not full. Essentially it is a limited no trade clause where he selects 18 teams each year. The NMC portion is just there so he can't be sent to the minors. So a NTC with a bit more pull rather than a full NMC. Unfortunately for Pittsburgh the language for the expansion draft requires him to be categorized as a full NMC.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Got a link? I haven't heard any one else say that. Seems odd they'd force you to protect someone in a position you have no one for.

I don't remember which media person tweeted it out. I thought it might have been Darren Haynes, but I don't see it in his timeline.

It was a couple of weeks ago, so trying to find it would be like finding a needle in a haystack at this point.

[GioforPM]

The rules I read say nothing about having to protect a goalie. They just say you have to expose one.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The rules I read say nothing about having to protect a goalie. They just say you have to expose one.

I do think they need to reach the protection requirements which would have them protecting a goalie. They simply can protect one of their pending free agents though

[MissTeeks]

Freeway has it on his twitter:

https://twitter.com/ryannpike/status/871829298897756161

[getbak]

Aha, that's who it was. I knew it was one of the local media guys.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by getbak

Aha, that's who it was. I knew it was one of the local media guys.

This got out of hand when a Hockey News article suggested the Flames would have to sign someone or trade for some prior to the deadline for protected lists, which isn't true.

[Major Major]

This was the whole point of Tom McCollum signing, no?

[MissTeeks]

He's to expose, not protect.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Major Major

This was the whole point of Tom McCollum signing, no?

No, McCollum satisfies the requirement for exposing a player with the experience needed. This panic was over the supposed requirement that the Flames have to protect a goalie as well that qualifies.

Turns out we can just protect an unsigned Elliott or Johnson.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Major Major

This was the whole point of Tom McCollum signing, no?

McCollum fills the exposure requirements for the position. The flames still need to protect a goalie which shouldn't be a problem (just protect one of the UFA goalies).

[FurnaceFace]

The following rules were approved for the 2017 Expansion Draft:

Protected Lists
* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:

a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender

b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender

* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

Player Exposure Requirements
* All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:

i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.

* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-expansi...es/c-281010592