06-08-2017, 11:21 PM
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#5101
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by Kybb79
No to trading Backlund.What do you guys think about adding Dwight King?A ufa with size and two Cups.
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1. Cups mean nothing in free agency. See: Brouwer, Troy.
2. 'UFA Winger with size' = slow. See: Brouwer, Troy.
3. Dwight King had one point on a playoff team last year and was by far Montreal's worst player in the regular season and playoffs. Can you say -9.1% relative Corsi?
King would be a worse version of Bouma. See: legendarily awful.
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06-08-2017, 11:23 PM
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#5102
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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I get your point but im talking toughness.Brouwer and Bouma don't provide that at all.
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06-08-2017, 11:24 PM
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#5103
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Dwight King might be the worst player in the NHL.
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06-08-2017, 11:24 PM
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#5104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kybb79
No to trading Backlund.What do you guys think about adding Dwight King?A ufa with size and two Cups.
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Barf
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06-08-2017, 11:25 PM
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#5105
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kybb79
I get your point but im talking toughness.Brouwer and Bouma don't provide that at all.
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I agree with you on Brouwer, but Bouma is easily the Flames' toughest forward. (Ferland is also up there.) It's just a shame that he can't score anymore and is overpaid by about $1.5 million.
The Flames are plenty tough, though... and the way the NHL is headed, toughness should never be a reason for seeking out a player. It's a 'nice-to-have' at this point.
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06-08-2017, 11:27 PM
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#5106
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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Bouma can't fight very good .If we lose Engelland we are not so tough.
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06-08-2017, 11:32 PM
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#5107
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kybb79
Bouma can't fight very good .If we lose Engelland we are not so tough.
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King had zero fights last year.
Honestly, I'd rather bring up Hathaway. He had four fights and 56 hits last year in 26 games, so if cheap toughness is what you're going after, he's the perfect guy.
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06-08-2017, 11:40 PM
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#5108
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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Yeah i would take Hathaway over Bouma.But call me old school but i think we still need a tough guy.
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06-08-2017, 11:48 PM
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#5109
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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Ryan Reaves would be my choice.But i don't think the Blues would let him go.
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06-08-2017, 11:49 PM
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#5110
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I would rather allot that money to sign Kris Versteeg
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06-08-2017, 11:54 PM
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#5111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I would rather allot that money to sign Kris Versteeg
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But only if David Jones and Jyrki Jokipaka arent available Right?
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06-09-2017, 06:57 AM
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#5112
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
But only if David Jones and Jyrki Jokipaka arent available Right?
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Difference is, Versteeg is actually good.
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06-09-2017, 07:52 AM
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#5113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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One thing that treliving hasn't done great is free agents. I would rather just stay away from any they never work out
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06-09-2017, 07:54 AM
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#5114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robo
One thing that treliving hasn't done great is free agents. I would rather just stay away from any they never work out
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Yeah Frolik really sucks
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06-09-2017, 07:55 AM
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#5115
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Yeah Frolik really sucks
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Forgot about him
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06-09-2017, 07:58 AM
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#5116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I agree with you on Brouwer, but Bouma is easily the Flames' toughest forward. (Ferland is also up there.) It's just a shame that he can't score anymore and is overpaid by about $1.5 million.
The Flames are plenty tough, though... and the way the NHL is headed, toughness should never be a reason for seeking out a player. It's a 'nice-to-have' at this point.
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Disagree,
Engelland was by far the toughest player on the team followed up by Ferland. The injuries really caught up to Lance. Outside of that the Flames are butter soft - not nearly tough enough to compete in the West.
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06-09-2017, 08:09 AM
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#5117
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Franchise Player
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Toughness is nice but overpaying for it in free agency is what bad teams do. Shouldn't be that hard to develop internally IMO.
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06-09-2017, 08:14 AM
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#5118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robo
Forgot about him
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I agree with you for the most part. Raymond and Brouwer were both pretty big fails. Personally I think Hiller was a decent signing he gave the Flames 50+ starts and was decent the first tese here but a tire fire in year 2.
For substantial signings I think he did well with Frolik and Engellend and did poorly with Raymond and Brouwer.
I don't think Hiller, Johnson, Versteeg etc were bad signings but on 1-2 year deals I don't think they affect his free agency rating.
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06-09-2017, 09:43 AM
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#5119
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Franchise Player
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If the Flames want toughness there's some on the way with Lomberg and Hathaway. Hunter Smith (who everyone seems to seriously under rate) will play for this team on merit eventually as well I bet.
There's enough in the system that Brad shouldn't be going out and dropping 18 million on AHLers.
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06-09-2017, 09:50 AM
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#5120
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
But only if David Jones and Jyrki Jokipaka arent available Right?
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I hear Nakladal is available.
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