2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

What teams are going to have trouble keeping forwards in expansion?
Flames have room to protect one more forward if they decide that Ferland is protected but Brouwer can be exposed.

Flames likely expansion list
Forwards:
1- Gaudreau
2- Monahan
3- Bennett
4- Backlund
5- Frolik
6- Ferland (possible)
7- Brouwer (possible)

Defense
1- Hamilton
2- Brodie
3- Giordano

Goalie
?

Columbus is in a serious bind with all their NTCs/NMCs.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Would be an interesting strategy to expose Brouwer to protect Stone. The idea being that LV would be more likely to take Brouwer and since there's a limit of one player picked per team, Stone would be safe. That's of course assuming that LV values Brouwer over Stone.

Stone is an UFA. We won't sign him before the expansion draft. And we're certainly not gonna protect an UFA.

All this talk of protecting 4 D makes zero sense

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Stone is an UFA. We won't sign him before the expansion draft. And we're certainly not gonna protect an UFA.

All this talk of protecting 4 D makes zero sense

Thought Stone was a pending RFA (isn't he 26?). But either way, wasn't saying protect Stone, was saying expose Brouwer and Stone in hopes that Brouwer is the one taken.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Would be an interesting strategy to expose Brouwer to protect Stone. The idea being that LV would be more likely to take Brouwer and since there's a limit of one player picked per team, Stone would be safe. That's of course assuming that LV values Brouwer over Stone.

If they protect four D they can only protect four forwards. Even the Flames aren't that shallow on forward to allow it.

Protect - Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund Frolik (?)
Expose - Bennet, Ferland, Brouwer

Is it worth the risk to lose Frolik or Bennet? Sign Stone after the expansion draft, make it simple for yourself.

[sureLoss]

10 teams in on Vrbata?

Kevin Paul Dupont @GlobeKPD
Vrbata to Bruins looks perfect fit. Cost? Guess: R2,R3 picks; or R2 pick and prospect. Line 3 for Vrbata, ability to move up per need.

Craig Custance @CraigCustance
Makes a lot of sense for Boston. As many as ten teams in on Vrbata right now, too early to call a front-runner.

[nik-]

Losing Bennett in the expansion draft would be hilarious tragedy. I think I'd have a ####ing aneurysm. Thankfully that won't happen.

[cannon7]

Since Stone is a pending UFA, I would alter the strategy slightly. Re-sign him to a shorter term than Brouwer, say 3.5/3 and expose him and Brouwer at the expansion draft. Does LV take the veteran top-six winger with longer term in Brouwer or the #4 defenceman with a shorter term in Stone? Stone probably won't be thrilled by the prospect of being exposed, but there will be a lot of guys exposed and it would be the Flames hedging. Of course you may have to overpay Stone since as a UFA he can decide where he goes, whereas in this scenario he could end up in LV. Sure it is simpler to re-sign him as a UFA, just a hypothetical.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Since Stone is a pending UFA, I would alter the strategy slightly. Re-sign him to a shorter term than Brouwer, say 3.5/3 and expose him and Brouwer at the expansion draft. Does LV take the veteran top-six winger with longer term in Brouwer or the #4 defenceman with a shorter term in Stone? Stone probably won't be thrilled by the prospect of being exposed, but there will be a lot of guys exposed and it would be the Flames hedging. Of course you may have to overpay Stone since as a UFA he can decide where he goes, whereas in this scenario he could end up in LV. Sure it is simpler to re-sign him as a UFA, just a hypothetical.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Or just sign Stone after the expansion draft and avoid the whole thing.

[Flash Walken]

Can we come up with a hand wringing scenario that sees the Flames lose both Bennett and Monahan?

[CaptainCrunch]

I doubt that Vegas is going to put a claim in on any of our bottom 3 defensemen that are left and it really doesn't seem to be all that logical for them to claim a upcoming UFA.

so if they product Johnny, Monahan, Backlund, Frolik, Bennett and Ferland, then they are going to have to make a choice to protect one of Brouwer, Poirier or Shinkaruk or Bouma is they don't pick up another player at the deadline that could be considered core.

On the blueline they'll protect the top 3, so that's easy.

In goal do they protect one of Elliot or Johnson or McCollum who they picked up just for the draft.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I doubt that Vegas is going to put a claim in on any of our bottom 3 defensemen that are left and it really doesn't seem to be all that logical for them to claim a upcoming UFA.

so if they product Johnny, Monahan, Backlund, Frolik, Bennett and Ferland, then they are going to have to make a choice to protect one of Brouwer, Poirier or Shinkaruk or Bouma is they don't pick up another player at the deadline that could be considered core.

On the blueline they'll protect the top 3, so that's easy.

In goal do they protect one of Elliot or Johnson or McCollum who they picked up just for the draft.

McCollum most likely...unless one of the other guys blows the doors off in the next few months and gets an extention

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Since Stone is a pending UFA, I would alter the strategy slightly. Re-sign him to a shorter term than Brouwer, say 3.5/3 and expose him and Brouwer at the expansion draft. Does LV take the veteran top-six winger with longer term in Brouwer or the #4 defenceman with a shorter term in Stone? Stone probably won't be thrilled by the prospect of being exposed, but there will be a lot of guys exposed and it would be the Flames hedging. Of course you may have to overpay Stone since as a UFA he can decide where he goes, whereas in this scenario he could end up in LV. Sure it is simpler to re-sign him as a UFA, just a hypothetical.

Why not wait until after the expansion draft and sign Stone? No worries about him being exposed or losing him as long as we can sign him before thencpurting period. He may want to hear what is out there but also seems like the kind of guy that would love to stay in Calgary due to Family and his role on the team

[Erick Estrada]

I'm not convinced Ferland would be picked up if left unprotected. Pretty well every team has a similar forward on their roster and there's likely to be 30+ unprotected forwards in Ferland's range of talent and Vegas can only have so many of that that type of player on their roster.

I really hope that Treliving doesn't protect Brouwer because of perceived optics as he's exactly the type of player that you expose as he's not a difference maker on your team and he's highly paid for what he provides.

[CaptainCrunch]

Even if we expose a guy like Stone why would Vegas use a pick to grab a UFA, its a potential gamble (see what I did there) that might become a bad move.

I mean frankly the smart move for Calgary would be to expose Brouwer and decide if you want to protect a younger fringe player since it seems unlikely that Vegas would want to pick up that contract. Just like Edmonton should really expose Lucic.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not convinced Ferland would be picked up if left unprotected. Pretty well every team has a similar forward on their roster and there's likely to be 30+ unprotected forwards in Ferland's range of talent and Vegas can only have so many of that that type of player on their roster.

I really hope that Treliving doesn't protect Brouwer because of perceived optics as he's exactly the type of player that you expose as he's not a difference maker on your team and he's highly paid for what he provides.

We can protect 7 players so we could protect both Ferland and Bouwer along with Nonahan, Frolilk, Johnny, Bennett and Backs. I think Vegas would jump at Ferland who is showing a pretty decent ceiling and could become a fan favorite for a new team.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Even if we expose a guy like Stone why would Vegas use a pick to grab a UFA, its a potential gamble (see what I did there) that might become a bad move.

I mean frankly the smart move for Calgary would be to expose Brouwer and decide if you want to protect a younger fringe player since it seems unlikely that Vegas would want to pick up that contract. Just like Edmonton should really expose Lucic.

I believe he has a NMC so that's not possible unless he agrees to it.

[dammage79]

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[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I doubt that Vegas is going to put a claim in on any of our bottom 3 defensemen that are left and it really doesn't seem to be all that logical for them to claim a upcoming UFA.

so if they product Johnny, Monahan, Backlund, Frolik, Bennett and Ferland, then they are going to have to make a choice to protect one of Brouwer, Poirier or Shinkaruk or Bouma is they don't pick up another player at the deadline that could be considered core.

On the blueline they'll protect the top 3, so that's easy.

In goal do they protect one of Elliot or Johnson or McCollum who they picked up just for the draft.

Flames are sitting very pretty going into expansion so much so they can acquire a goalie and a forward and still be good. Maybe it shows the depth of the organization is slightly weak but the team has strong players in the protection spots. Youngsters like Gillies, Jankowski and most notably Tkachuk are exempt.

Tampa still needs to make a move for cap reasons. Ideally they dump Filpula who has a year, $5M cap hit, and NMC in his deal. They obviously have Stamkos, Kucherov that they absolutely protect. Callahan has a NMC and a brutal contract. They have Killorn making north of $4M. They have to sign Johnson, Palat, and Drouin this summer so one of them may be on the block?

[The Fonz]

Random thought: would you guys trade Parsons + 2017 1st for Cory Schneider?

Schneider is turning 31 in a month, and under contract for 5 more seasons @ $6M AAV.
I would do it.

I guess I'll expand on why I'm thinking of this. It's no secret that Treliving is still searching for a #1, and I don't believe that Bishop, Fleury, or Howard will be his target. Treliving has to nail this acquisition, and I believe Schneider could be available as NJ is a young team and at least a few years away from being a contender.