04-09-2014, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
I don't really see the harm in them saying that you need to institute these clubs, the cost will be minimal at most and it could potentially have positive impacts on people's lives.
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At the risk of getting involved in this, are you saying that the schools should be mandated to start and run these clubs in every school?
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04-09-2014, 07:54 PM
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#82
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Originally Posted by Jacks
At the risk of getting involved in this, are you saying that the schools should be mandated to start and run these clubs in every school?
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At the risk of hearing the answer, is there a reason schools shouldn't be mandated to start and run these clubs in every school?
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04-09-2014, 07:57 PM
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#83
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What about clubs for other groups?
Are LGBT the only group that faces bullying?
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04-09-2014, 07:59 PM
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#84
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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....and here go!
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04-09-2014, 08:00 PM
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#85
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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if we allow gay people to get married, then we'd have to let animals and buildings get married.
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04-09-2014, 08:01 PM
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#86
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Originally Posted by flameswin
....and here go!
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Ya, you're right. There is no winning here. Have fun folks.
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04-09-2014, 08:39 PM
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#87
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Originally Posted by SebC
From Kent Hehr: 40 GSAs in public schools, 0 in Catholic schools, 0 in private religious schools.
Kent Hehr also says that we will likely hear about a high-school student whose request to form a GSA was rejected in tomorrow's news.
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would the bill Hehr proposed have helped this kid since it was non binding?
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04-09-2014, 08:42 PM
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#88
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*Inserts Politically Correct Statement which garners many Thanks*
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04-09-2014, 08:55 PM
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#89
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Originally Posted by Jacks
What about clubs for other groups?
Are LGBT the only group that faces bullying?
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I'm pretty sure most high schools have a "magic the gathering" club...so ya.
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04-09-2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
At the risk of hearing the answer, is there a reason schools shouldn't be mandated to start and run these clubs in every school?
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As I said earlier, there's not much point in starting a club with no members.
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Originally Posted by GGG
would the bill Hehr proposed have helped this kid since it was non binding?
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I genuinely don't know. Depends on how much the school boards want to push back would be my guess. But I also suspect that if the motion passed and was defied by a school board, legislation would follow.
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Originally Posted by SebC
Kent Hehr also says that we will likely hear about a high-school student whose request to form a GSA was rejected in tomorrow's news.
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And here we go...
http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=3...ylistPageNum=1
Looks like it's the St. Albert Catholic school board that said "no".
Apologies for the video... if I find a text story, I'll change the link.
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04-10-2014, 06:09 AM
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#91
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Originally Posted by crazy_eoj
As opposed to the lamb telling two wolves to eat salad because it knows better? (ie: Nanny Redford?)
The elitist stance isn't always correct either. Democracy might be the worst form of government, except compared to all the others, right?
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Just because they are smarter than you, doesn't mean they are elitist.
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Last edited by Rathji; 04-10-2014 at 06:12 AM.
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04-10-2014, 06:12 AM
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#92
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Originally Posted by Jacks
What about clubs for other groups?
Are LGBT the only group that faces bullying?
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No, but they have by far the highest rate of suicide, as a result of that bullying.
Bullying is a systemic problem that needs to be dealt with, for sure. If we had to pick a starting point, I would like to start with the area that leaves us with less dead kids.
If you can solve it for the LGBT community, imagine how easy it would be to solve it for the fat kids.
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04-10-2014, 08:58 AM
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If there was a policy that could be implemented across school boards that would reduce attempted suicides among children in half, would there be an argument about it's efficacy or desirability if there wasn't 'Gay' in the title?
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04-10-2014, 09:11 AM
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Wild Rose to me are just desperate politicians and will switch allegiances just to get a pay cheque.
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04-10-2014, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Toledo OH
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Originally Posted by SebC
As I said earlier, there's not much point in starting a club with no members.
I genuinely don't know. Depends on how much the school boards want to push back would be my guess. But I also suspect that if the motion passed and was defied by a school board, legislation would follow.
And here we go...
http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=3...ylistPageNum=1
Looks like it's the St. Albert Catholic school board that said "no".
Apologies for the video... if I find a text story, I'll change the link. |
Well, I guess I have to change my opinion on this one now. I thought that allowing these clubs to the extent that students wanted to start and run them would simply be self-evident to school boards and individual schools and not in need of provincial government intervention. I was wrong . . .
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04-10-2014, 09:22 AM
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#96
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Wild Rose to me are just desperate politicians and will switch allegiances just to get a pay cheque.
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I don't get that feeling at all actually. They weren't even smart enough to count up the fact that this vote was decided and have one or two members vote in favour just to say "see, its a free vote and we're just not convinced".
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04-10-2014, 09:34 AM
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#97
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Originally Posted by SebC
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From the video, 40 GS alliances in public schools in Alberta. ZERO at catholic schools.
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04-10-2014, 10:09 AM
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#98
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The real sad thing is how many 'left' leaning voters supported the PC's, who also don't support this bill. It's the PC's 22 votes against this bill that really killed it, more than double the votes against it than the Wildrose.
Now not only is it voted down by them, but there much more difficulty finding a way to finance it along with so many other initiatives in the future because of our growing debt burden.
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04-10-2014, 10:11 AM
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#99
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Is there a list of who voted for and against it? I'd be curious to see the ridings where they came from.
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04-10-2014, 10:14 AM
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Now not only is it voted down by them, but there much more difficulty finding a way to finance it along with so many other initiatives in the future because of our growing debt burden.
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In your estimation, how much would it cost the Albertan taxpayers if there was a provincial mandate that schools must say "Yes" when students ask if they can form a GSA club?
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