[PGT] Flames lose 2-0 to Stars

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by dino7c

not tonight

Also not the problem tonight.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Have we heard anything on Smith lately? If this team is going to make the playoffs they need him back. Hard to blame the goalie for only giving up 2 but the team plays more confidence in front of him.

They won their last two games before this one outscoring the opponents 10-3.

I'm one of the most negative people on this entire board honestly, but they met a hot goalie tonight. Accept it and move on.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Yes a sensable HC and coaching staff.
Treliving could pick up any 3rd-4th line player from any team and this clown Gulutzan will feel the need to put them with Johnny and Monahan.
Gulutzan is straight up a bizarre coach.

A lot of coaches now go with pairs and then a complimentary player who otherwise wouldn't be playing that high up in the line up.
It is hardly unheard of.

[Kovaz]

Stewart finished the night -8 in shot attempts while every other forward was at least even. Gaudreau and Monahan were -10 through 40 then +10 in the 3rd playing with Bennett to finish even.

If this is indicative of Stewart's game then he's pretty much who Wild fans said he is: ok in transition but useless in his own zone and incapable of playing the cycle game in the offensive zone.

Thought Jankowski looked pretty good with and without Bennett. PP looked decent enough - if that Hamilton crossbar goes in it's a totally different game.

IMO at this point we just have to accept we're not getting 3 lines of scoring and run Gaudreau-Monahan-Bennett Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik at least until Ferland comes back. We can't afford to have our top line struggling like they were today.

[Yoho]

Keep doing nothing when guys take liberties on Jonny.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Meh.. Gillies was good enough to win this one. .923 and a handful of huge stops. One sleight mistake was all it took, but overall I thought he had a good game.

he was OKAY...hard to blame the goalie when you don't score , both goals were kinda his fault though

Dallas has 7 high danger chances

The guy at the other end was far better

[Wolfman]

Bishop was unreal tonight. 1st 2nd and 3rd star for him. PP had chances but couldn't beat a hot goalie. Back at it tomorrow night. Gaudreau looked like he was handling a grenade on his stick all night.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by codynw

They won their last two games before this one outscoring the opponents 10-3.

I'm one of the most negative people on this entire board honestly, but they met a hot goalie tonight. Accept it and move on.

Generally I agree, but I also don't feel like they can ride the two youngsters to the post-season.
Smitty has been their MVP. They need him.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Have we heard anything on Smith lately? If this team is going to make the playoffs they need him back. Hard to blame the goalie for only giving up 2 but the team plays more confidence in front of him.

Still hasn't skated. In an interview on the Fan Gillies described his injury as gruesome, Steinburg and Loubardias thought it was an odd comment, like he knew more. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that he's returning soon.

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

Stewart finished the night -8 in shot attempts while every other forward was at least even. Gaudreau and Monahan were -10 through 40 then +10 in the 3rd playing with Bennett to finish even.

If this is indicative of Stewart's game then he's pretty much who Wild fans said he is: ok in transition but useless in his own zone and incapable of playing the cycle game in the offensive zone.

Thought Jankowski looked pretty good with and without Bennett. PP looked decent enough - if that Hamilton crossbar goes in it's a totally different game.

IMO at this point we just have to accept we're not getting 3 lines of scoring and run Gaudreau-Monahan-Bennett Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik at least until Ferland comes back. We can't afford to have our top line struggling like they were today.

Yeah, he looked pretty much as expected, that's not good.

[burn_this_city]

Posted this in the GT by accident.

Too little depth scoring this season. Guys like Frolik, Backlund, and Bennett aren't finding the net with any consistency.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by chummer

Still hasn't skated. In an interview on the Fan Gillies described his injury as gruesome, Steinburg and Loubardias thought it was an odd comment, like he knew more. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that he's returning soon.

Yikes hadn't heard that.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

A lot of coaches now go with pairs and then a complimentary player who otherwise wouldn't be playing that high up in the line up.
It is hardly unheard of.

Not even just now. Who played with Gretzky and Kurri? Gillies played with Bossy and Trottier.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Keep doing nothing when guys take liberties on Jonny.

Guy hit him legally and then went to the bench...what did you want? Somebody to jump on the Dallas bench and start throwing hay makers?

Game was still in the balance

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Guy hit him legally and then went to the bench...what did you want? Somebody to jump on the Dallas bench and start throwing hay makers?

Game was still in the balance

Yes

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They drafted Bennett and Tkachuk. They signed Foo, who was supposed to be skilled.

The draft picks they traded weren't going to get elite skill, unless you get really lucky.

It's also really difficult to get elite skill outside of the draft, you need lots of draft picks to give you a chance to get it.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They drafted Bennett and Tkachuk. They signed Foo, who was supposed to be skilled.

The draft picks they traded weren't going to get elite skill, unless you get really lucky.

well, the primary deficiency in this team is still lack of scoring... everyone has said it. Bennett, sadly, hasn't developed the way that people had hoped for.

so you either draft, trade or sign for it...

imo they should be increasing the drafting of skilled players, because the the defensive ledger is pretty stocked whereas the offensive side is not

side note: man, we need to get lucky with an Eric Staal type UFA signing... guy has found the fountain of youth in minny

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Flames played ok. Difference to me was the flames in ability to hit the frigin net.

It shocks me that Gaudreau having an MVP type year, actually getting goaltending, yet this franchise hasn't seen an ounce of overall improvement from last season.

Frolik and Backlund's production took a hit from last season. Management banking on them continuing at that rate was their biggest miscalculation about this season.

Bottom 6 produce only once in a blue moon.

Therein lies the issue. Limited depth production cuts down the boost from the improved goaltending to where we're virtually the same.

Hopefully Shore can at least help the 4th line to be reliable defensively. And maybe Versteeg can sub in for Hathaway and score the odd goal. Without the first line going into beast mode again, I don't know if it'll be enough to get us in.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Yes

Its never gonna happen...on this team or any other team

get a grip

[browna]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Meh.. Gillies was good enough to win this one. .923 and a handful of huge stops. One sleight mistake was all it took, but overall I thought he had a good game.

Bit hard on what wasn't really even a fake and missed the rim around and his 6'6 frame gets beaten high 5 seconds later.

Smith plays, neither of those go in. It was a bad game from Gillies.