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Old 11-25-2014, 09:57 AM   #1281
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What lends to him being a crook? The photo's CNN decides to use to portray him?
The fact he was fleeing a robbery? Which was the whole reason the officer wanted to talk to the guy further. And likely the whole reason Brown wanted to escalate the situation? (To avoid capture for the robbery).

But hey, mass media and the protesters would love you to think I called him a "crook" because he is black.
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Old 11-25-2014, 09:58 AM   #1282
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The fact he was fleeing a robbery? Which was the whole reason the officer wanted to talk to the guy further. And likely the whole reason Brown wanted to escalate the situation? (To avoid capture for the robbery).

But hey, mass media and the protesters would love you to think I called him a "crook" because he is black.
Steal a couple cigars leading to getting shot? Seriously how many 18 year old kids do you know shop lift? Please, that does not equate to being a crook.
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:01 AM   #1283
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Steal a couple cigars leading to getting shot? Seriously how many 18 year old kids do you know shop lift? Please, that does not equate to being a crook.
Um, yeah, stealing stuff equates to being a crook by definition.
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Steal a couple cigars leading to getting shot? Seriously how many 18 year old kids do you know shop lift? Please, that does not equate to being a crook.
Let's not forget that he assaulted the shopkeeper...
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Steal a couple cigars leading to getting shot? Seriously how many 18 year old kids do you know shop lift? Please, that does not equate to being a crook.
Does it matter if he was stealing $10,000 or a box of cigarellos? The cop was responding to knowledge of a robbery with 2 black males fleeing. Brown escalated the situation as a result.

Most young shoplifters I know would admit to it or at least cooperate with the police when confronted, not attack them and try and steal their gun.
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You cannot equate the world N*gger to PIG.

The word N*gger comes with generations of abuse, ownership of slaves, the slave trade itself and hundreds of years of oppression while the word Pig comes from abuse of powers.

But thanks for showing up.
Which word is irrelevant. Keep on fighting the ignorant fight!
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:10 AM   #1287
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Steal a couple cigars leading to getting shot? Seriously how many 18 year old kids do you know shop lift? Please, that does not equate to being a crook.
No stealing a couple of cigars and assaulting a shop owner will get you arrested. Assaulting a cop, trying to take his gun, and then rushing a cop while putting your hand into the waist band of your pants will get you shot.

(If his testimony is right, which the Grand Jury believed)
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Steal a couple cigars leading to getting shot? Seriously how many 18 year old kids do you know shop lift? Please, that does not equate to being a crook.
Could you please explain this thought process? It intrigues me.

You take one piece of information, and connect it to the result without considering any of the context, evidence, and information for what happened in between.

It's evident to anyone that knows the case and read the evidence that stealing a box of cigarellos isn't the reason he got shot. Why do you continue to hold on to that belief?
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I'll retract me saying he's not a "crook" but I highly I doubt getting shot was the answer. What is up with this site today.

American's history is enriched with Black kids getting shot by White cops and there being no consequences, so yes I have a hard time believing that this kid was shot justifiably by this cop.

Its funny how the media always works against the Blacks, like that in the case of OJ Simpson; it wasn't the detective it was OJ.

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Which word is irrelevant. Keep on fighting the ignorant fight!
What? This post is ignorant.

I'll ask again, how do you equate in your mind the world N*gger to PIG?

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I'll retract me saying he's not a "crook" but I highly I doubt getting shot was the answer. What is up with this site today.



The robbery didn't get him shot, you can't equate the two. His conduct with Wilson did get him shot, that's the decision of the Grand Jury based on testimony and presented evidence.

The cop didn't shoot him for having cigars. The cop pegged him as a possible suspect in the robbery and did what cops are supposed to do which is investigate.
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I'll retract me saying he's not a "crook" but I highly I doubt getting shot was the answer. What is up with this site today.
Clearly since he was a black crook the cop decided to gun him down like they all should be. Is that what you want to hear?

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I'll ask again, how do you equate in your mind the world N*gger to PIG?
Nevermind, keep baiting. Eventually you'll pull someone into your troll fest. Luckily most of us are able to see through your antics.
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Also, for anyone interested, here's a summary of the version of events that the grand jury accepted (note I avoided calling it the truth - you can draw your own conclusions):

http://news.sky.com/story/1379996/mi...eally-happened

And here are all the raw documents including all the photos:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...rown-case.html
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Clearly since he was a black crook the cop decided to gun him down like they all should be. Is that what you want to hear?



Nevermind, keep baiting. Eventually you'll pull someone into your troll fest. Luckily most of us are able to see through your antics.

Did you miss Street pharmacists comment? I'm not baiting anyone.

SP, clearly said that if bad cops are PIGS can one use racially derogatory words for a black criminal?

And this is not the first or last time a Black kid will be shot by a white cop in the USofA.
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Following this process, I tend to side with the cop up until he fired as many shots as he did.
If a guy had been shot a couple of times and was 10 feet away, a trained officer should be able to put another one in the leg if need be.

(watching CNN as we speak - exactly what my thought is.... the officer felt like a 5 year old holding hulk hogan yet they are both big guys and Mike Brown had a couple bullets in him.)
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The media is also to blame for hyping everything every time a police shooting and it happens to involve a minority. You don't hear about the police shooting white people.
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Following this process, I tend to side with the cop up until he fired as many shots as he did.
If a guy had been shot a couple of times and was 10 feet away, a trained officer should be able to put another one in the leg if need be.

(watching CNN as we speak - exactly what my thought is.... the officer felt like a 5 year old holding hulk hogan yet they are both big guys and Mike Brown had a couple bullets in him.)

Police do not shoot to wound, they shoot to stop the threat. Trying for an arm, a leg or the head is an impossible shot when you're ramped up on adrenaline and shooting at a moving target. An extremity shot, if you make it, will not stop an armed threat with any reasonable expectation of success. You also increase the danger to others when you have ricochets and missed shots flying all over.

Two shots were fired at/near the car, the other 10 (and 6 hits) were outside. For someone who at the time was deaf, head ringing, injured and had loads of adrenaline coursing through his body, that's good shooting.

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I sided with the cop after reading the witness statements and all the other documents.
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:52 AM   #1298
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If a guy had been shot a couple of times and was 10 feet away, a trained officer should be able to put another one in the leg if need be.
That's not how it works. You watch too many movies.
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Police do not shoot to wound, they shoot to stop the threat. Trying for an arm, a leg or the head is an impossible shot when you're ramped up on adrenaline and shooting at a moving target. An extremity shot, if you make it, will not stop an armed threat with any reasonable expectation of success. You also increase the danger to others when you have ricochets and missed shots flying all over.
Indeed. People watching too many movies and with unrealistic expectations and Matrix style slow motion gun play.
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fair enough reason!
part 2 - why couldnt mace have been used?

Again, I side more with the cop than I do Mike Brown after looking at facts but I don't like the prosecutor and question some of what happened.
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