Police shooting of unarmed teen leads to protests and Riot

[lanny9]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Who said he killed him because he was black?

Jessie Jackson or his buddy Sharpton?

That's a major part of the problem is these guys seed the hated both ways, it makes them rich, gets their faces on TV, buys them influence. Instead of trying to bring people together these two are devisive and only add to the problems in America's society imo.

[takinghits]

Can someone breakdown what happens if this were to happen in Alberta?

Is it ASIRT which decides if it should go court?

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Acey

When Casey Anthony got off, they did the white equivalent: voice displeasure on social media. Likely because white people, on average, are better behaved. But I am ignorant for saying something that is quite obviously true given that I've lived it my whole life?

To some degree, I think I'm actually on your side on this. I hate how racial it got.

Casey got off just like Zimmerman because the morons in Florida brought up the wrong charges.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Okay I'm confused by that, what does that mean?

It means people get prosecuted all the time with same set of evidences or lack of.
She also said the prosecutor? Or attorney? Is now 0 for 5 for prosecuting cops who have shot and killed people.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by Acey

When Casey Anthony got off, they did the white equivalent: voice displeasure on social media. Likely because white people, on average, are better behaved. But I am ignorant for saying something that is quite obviously true given that I've lived it my whole life.

When Montreal WON the cup, they rioted and burned their city. Mostly White French Canadians.

When Vancouver lost in the cup finals mostly white Canadians rioted and burned cop cars.

I don't care if you're black, you don't really have much more insight than any other person on the subject. I have black friends who were actually born in America and they see the exact same issues I do. Racism is still very alive in America.

[waner]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Why did they pick this time to announce this? I think they knew the reaction that was coming and picked this ti put these people in a bad light again.

Those morons put themselves in a bad light all on their own.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Who said he killed him because he was black?

Jessie Jackson or his buddy Sharpton?

Wow dude, your reading comprehension is awful.

"That's what the rioters claim"

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

It means people get prosecuted all the time with same set of evidences or lack of.
She also said the prosecutor? Or attorney? Is now 0 for 5 for prosecuting cops who have shot and killed people.

thanks

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

The fact they are black is not why they are rioting, it's how they think they have been wronged.

...but they think they've been wronged because of the fact that they're black.

I think we're making the same statement here.

Can we stop talking about sports riots? They're different and don't matter. Plenty people have died in Europe from sports riots. They're irrelevant. I say again: black people, on average, are more likely to misbehave, kill each other, and steal. Why you're trying to deny this is beyond me.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Acey

When Casey Anthony got off, they did the white equivalent: voice displeasure on social media. Likely because white people, on average, are better behaved. But I am ignorant for saying something that is quite obviously true given that I've lived it my whole life.

To some degree, I think I'm actually on your side on this. I hate how racial it got.

White people aren't better behaved. Wealthy white people are more likely to get away with it.

Go find a group of poorly educated, poverty-stricken white people. Go find your run of the mill trailer park.
I'd put money on the fact that they're just as likely to be as lawless as poorly educated, poverty stricken black people.

But even those poor/uneducated white people are probably less likely to go to jail for a minor drug charge than is a poor/uneducated black person. That same black person is then going to spend time in jail. Then he's going to come out and be unable to find a job. Then he's going to be more likely to be involved in more illegal activity, and then he's going to end up in jail. Then his poorly educated kids are more likely to someday end up in jail. It's a vicious cycle of systemic racism that still is extremely prevalent in this country.

If you want to know how much better white people behave than black people--go to a football game and find a drunk guy and tell him his team sucks. Come to Pittsburgh and see the absolutely disgusting piles of trash, vomit, etc that are left here by a whole brood of white people after big country shows visit the city.

All people have the capacity to be unlawful, to misbehave. The difference is that in general--white people have more power, more money, more opportunity, and those things help to keep them out of trouble.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Acey

...but they think they've been wronged because of the fact that they're black.

I think we're making the same statement here.

Can we stop talking about sports riots? They're different and don't matter. Plenty people have died in Europe from sports riots. They're irrelevant. I say again: black people, on average, are more likely to misbehave. Why you're trying to deny this is beyond me.

institutionally they're pretty much right unfortunately.

[waner]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Only black people riot.

White people "celebrate." After a championship win--white people "celebrate" by lighting couches on fire and looting. Or after a championship loss--white people also light things on fire and loot--but it's just people getting a little out of control! Hey, West Virginia University has at least one riot a year--but it's always brushed under the rug. Boys being boys and all that.

Numbers have proven that this police force has regularly profiled the people of color in its community. Higher arrest rates, numerous examples of excessive force, etc, etc. This is a community that is terrified of the authorities who are supposed to be protecting them, and yes, they are lashing out.

But if we can overlook it as nonsense when it's sports fans reacting to an overall meaningless sporting event--I'm pretty sure we can give a little bit of rope to a community that is angry, that is hurting, that is scared.

This community deserves a police force that they can trust, and the men in power at the moment don't look at all like they're capable of being that force.

Brushed under what rug?

Riots after sporting events are reported on and people involved are called out for being the idiots they are all the time.

The people out there protesting and rioting are morons. They don't deserve any rope and deserve any sort of reaction the cops deem necessary to get it under control.

[DuffMan]

Gun shots,

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by takinghits

Can someone breakdown what happens if this were to happen in Alberta?

Is it ASIRT which decides if it should go court?

I believe that in cases of officer involved shootings (or other incidents), the solicitor general requests that ASIRT investigates the incident. At the end of the ASIRT investigation, ASIRT recommends for or against charges to be laid against the officer involved. I don't think ASIRT actually files charges, but rather its recommendations are effectively the tipping point for pursuing charges or not.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

Wow dude, your reading comprehension is awful.

"That's what the rioters claim"

the rioters would riot even if the guy was indicted. The worst part is that if they bad ones that want to riot have made up their mind and no matter what evidence comes out to prove that they're wrong they would only continue.

I'm just confused at the whole thing, I see as the cop shot a guy that we know punched a cop and robbed a gas station just minutes prior and the grand jury looked at the evidence and didn't have enough to bring charges on.

to me it's just idiotic to burn your city down because of something you don't agree with.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

The difference is that in general--white people have more power, more money, more opportunity, and those things help to keep them out of trouble.

Exactly... and the end result of this disparity, is that, on average, a young black man is 5 times more likely to die from gun violence than a white kid, and we're still talking about people vomitting at sporting events.

[nik-]

hahahahhahahaha I can't believe that just happened on that stream

dude is recording and someone rushed up and stole his iphone haha, you see the stream shaking as the dude is running with the phone, and then he turns it off.

[troutman]

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[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by waner

Brushed under what rug?

Riots after sporting events are reported on and people involved are called out for being the idiots they are all the time.

The people out there protesting and rioting are morons. They don't deserve any rope and deserve any sort of reaction the cops deem necessary to get it under control.

I'll give Vancouver this--when that riot happened, there were cops in riot gear.

But in the US? Certain events always result in riots--it's a joke when it happens with WVU, because it's every year.

They don't call in the National Guard for it. They don't act as if they're going to war. They deal with the idiots and move on, they aren't firing tear gas and rubber bullets. They have a heightened police force--but even when they know days in advance that a riot is likely--they don't call in the freaking National Guard for it. Hell, when Paterno was fired after all of the disgusting revelations about the Penn State scandal--PSU students rioted.

My point is that white people riot too, but those riots aren't used to say that White People Misbehave.

A few idiots misbehave. Regardless of race. There are always idiots who are going to do this in a mob--and the color of their skin has nothing to do with it.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by nik-

hahahahhahahaha I can't believe that just happened on that stream

dude is recording and someone rushed up and stole his iphone haha, you see the stream shaking as the dude is running with the phone, and then he turns it off.

what happened?