This video is a fantastic example of the cognitive dissonance that goes on in America regarding race.
The racial undertones during the course of this interview, between two white people, is palpable.
The part racism plays in this whole thing is undeniable, yet, it's only been examined on a superficial level, and dismissed whole heartedly by some segments involved in the discussion.
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The perspective I look at it from is that how do you step it down? To step things down, both sides have to agree to step down.
So the government decides to take cops guns away and have them only have billy clubs and tasers. How long do you think they would last against folks with handguns and automatic rifles? Do you think that the criminals will say "Well, the cops don't have guns, guess we should give ours up to keep things fair."
Trust me, I look at the situation in the States, and I worry about where it'll go, where it'll end. I feel that we are watching an internal arms race, and I'm a bit scared of where it'll end up going, honestly.
But disarming the folks who are willing to voluntarily step between my family and the 'bad guys'...seems like a bad idea to me. Are those volunteers always the best of people? Nope, and they need to be held accountable when they fail. But taking away the tools to do their job? Quick way to run out of them, I'm thinking.
This video is a fantastic example of the cognitive dissonance that goes on in America regarding race.
The racial undertones during the course of this interview, between two white people, is palpable.
The part racism plays in this whole thing is undeniable, yet, it's only been examined on a superficial level, and dismissed whole heartedly by some segments involved in the discussion.
Unless I'm oversensitive to this stuff, the male anchor there was displaying a very uncomfortable amount of open racism on national TV. How does this still happen today!?
Unless I'm oversensitive to this stuff, the male anchor there was displaying a very uncomfortable amount of open racism on national TV. How does this still happen today!?
You are not over sensitive to it. It is a shocking level of open racism, but that is part of the point; the level of racism is so apparent and so ingrained that if you tried to clue that guy into what he was saying, he wouldn't follow along.
If you can be on national television on a broadcaster the size of fox entertainment and say something like that, what kind of inherent racism do the people of ferguson deal with in every police encounter?
When faced with the systemic nature of politicized racism in the us, it becomes impossible to ignore or give the benefit of the doubt to law enforcement in situations like this. The climate is too charged, the history is too significant and the impressions are too fresh.
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You are not over sensitive to it. It is a shocking level of open racism, but that is part of the point; the level of racism is so apparent and so ingrained that if you tried to clue that guy into what he was saying, he wouldn't follow along.
If you can be on national television on a broadcaster the size of fox entertainment and say something like that, what kind of inherent racism do the people of ferguson deal with in every police encounter?
When faced with the systemic nature of politicized racism in the us, it becomes impossible to ignore or give the benefit of the doubt to law enforcement in situations like this. The climate is too charged, the history is too significant and the impressions are too fresh.
The guy in the interview was certainly not racist. He was questioning several other issues he had with Holder, but none that I found were racist. I have found nothing wrong with what Holder is doing - but I do not find the interview racist.
There was an UNARMED white kid shot by a black SLC Cop last week and killed. Where are Jessie, Al, Holder, and Obama to speak at this one? This is the issue that surrounds the US. White people are being alienated by the open racism that is allowed from the black community towards white community. But if the roles were reversed not a damn peep.
I'm not pleased with the Police during this, but we don't honestly know if the cop that killed him had anything racially motivated for him to do this.
Just like the politician from MO that basically said on the news the other night that unless the DA steps down and the cop gets hung for this there will be no peace. This isn't a cop shooting innocent boy like it was when it first started until the robbery video showed up, this is all about race and that was started by the media because it makes them money.
Plenty of liberal white people that have not a racist bone in their body are starting to get turned off by the DOJ and the circus that this crap is bringing.
It's almost as if the media can care less about the truth, and more about ad $$ in their pockets. Pour more fuel on the fire!!!
Al ####ton shouldn't of been at the kids funeral, he and the black panthers should've been no where near this place.
But lets just say that if the race roles were reversed and the kid was white and the KKK was waltzing around and some idiot from a white supremacy group was running their yap the world would be all over it.
I'm sorry slavery happened, I'm sorry black people were oppressed (to an extent to this day) but seriously the racism #### has to stop on both sides.
The guy in the interview was certainly not racist. He was questioning several other issues he had with Holder, but none that I found were racist. I have found nothing wrong with what Holder is doing - but I do not find the interview racist.
I dunno, man, I think it's pretty racist to question whether the (black) Attorney General (!) of the United States will be fair and impartial overseeing an investigation involving different races, because he has been a victim of racism previously.
The only reason the host gives for his belief that the Attorney General (!) of the United States would unfairly influence the investigation is because he may have an emotional reaction to racism, having been a victim of it himself, which is essentially saying he can't be trusted because he's black. "Well, back when the federal government had institutionalized racism, he experienced racism first hand. SO he's probably looking to get one back over on whitey." It's his blackness that leaves him biased against the white cop, which makes him unfit. According to the host.
I mean, your response is in a way validating. What on earth makes the supreme prosecutor in the United States unfit to oversee a criminal investigation?
And this is racist too:
It's outrageous, but it's viewed as, somehow, a non-racist opinion. Like when someone tells you "i just tell it like it is."
I mean, national tv here, as an acceptable, unquestioned opinion.
"Oh I like that O'Reilly, he's not bogged down in being 'PC'."
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Like I said earlier, I don't agree with what he said, but what he said is not racism. There may be another term for it, but I don't know what that term is.
It seems to me the guy is arguing Holder has already made comments that make him too partial for this case. Racism would be holding this guy to a different standard than other people of a different race, but people get called out of court cases all the time for being prejudiced to a case. If this was an issue exclusively used on blacks, than perhaps racism.
The riots, this thread and commentary all over the place make it seem like this is a clear case of racism, which it most likely will not be.
No, it's veiled racist. Where nothing he said taken on it's own is explicitly racist, but the theme and insinuation is racist. It's Fox News MO 101. Don't let them pin you down on a specific statement while delivering an overarching, easily identifiable theme.
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I love how Nage Waza never "agrees" with the person's controversial views but is always defending them in one capacity or another for some odd reason.
Oh wait, another personal attack. Do you actually read the posts? You think the world must agree with you? You attack and attack and never demonstrate why. Just smears over and over, different username, same MO.
No, it's veiled racist. Where nothing he said taken on it's own is explicitly racist, but the theme and insinuation is racist. It's Fox News MO 101. Don't let them pin you down on a specific statement while delivering an overarching, easily identifiable theme.
So now it is not racism, it is 'veiled' racism? What did the guy say where he proposes something racist? It is very clear to me you do not know what racism is. If this guy (I really know nothing about him besides the video) claimed that black people cannot act reasonably or whatever because they are black, that is racism. If on the other hand he says this one person is too attached to the crime that he should probably get someone else to step in, that is different, and that is what I interpreted in the argument.
His points are not exactly new or horrible - would this have been the spectacle it has become if it was a black police officer who did the shooting and a black victim? Would Holder be on scene for that circumstance? The answer is yes by the way, according to the lady, who claimed his appearance is by request of the sheriff or something.
This guy may be loose with his choice of words, but to claim he judges black people differently based on this clip is really stretching.
So now it is not racism, it is 'veiled' racism? What did the guy say where he proposes something racist? It is very clear to me you do not know what racism is. If this guy (I really know nothing about him besides the video) claimed that black people cannot act reasonably or whatever because they are black, that is racism. If on the other hand he says this one person is too attached to the crime that he should probably get someone else to step in, that is different, and that is what I interpreted in the argument.
His points are not exactly new or horrible - would this have been the spectacle it has become if it was a black police officer who did the shooting and a black victim? Would Holder be on scene for that circumstance? The answer is yes by the way, according to the lady, who claimed his appearance is by request of the sheriff or something.
This guy may be loose with his choice of words, but to claim he judges black people differently based on this clip is really stretching.
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