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Old 07-30-2015, 01:04 PM   #2461
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Mikey the redneck is that you?
I know we're not supposed to do this but it 100% has to be.
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Failure to comply is not a death sentence, but there are no videos out there showing anyone complying with law enforcement getting shot by law enforcement.
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Old 07-30-2015, 01:24 PM   #2463
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Failure to comply is not a death sentence, but there are no videos out there showing anyone complying with law enforcement getting shot by law enforcement.
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Old 07-30-2015, 02:14 PM   #2464
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Failure to comply is not a death sentence, but there are no videos out there showing anyone complying with law enforcement getting shot by law enforcement.
Sure about that?
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Old 07-30-2015, 02:56 PM   #2465
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Quincy_the_redneck posting strategy:

1. Enter thread with strong opinions, mostly in one direction
2. Post wildly contrary opinion, even better if racial issues are a part of the conversation
3. Watch thread erupt
4. Poke participants with a stick every now and then when the outrage loses energy

What terrific contributions you've brought to CP over the years, Mikey Egg.
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Old 07-30-2015, 04:52 PM   #2466
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Not sure where to post this, but given the racial theme of the thread.

Not sure who thought this was a good idea....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/nati...lous-1.3174153

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The organizers of an annual race in Kentucky are coming under fire this week as news spreads of their intention to have "native American re-enactors" chase participants to the finish line.

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"It's not every day you can find a 5K — or any race — where American Indians reenactors will chase you to the finish line," the piece, which was published Monday, reads. "Yet that's exactly what you'll get Aug. 15 at the James Ray 5K — Indian Attack in Harrodsburg."
I feel bad for 98% of Americans this week (also known as "normal people") - the type who aren't involved in baiting lions out of game reserves or dressing people up to chase whites to finish a race.
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Old 08-11-2015, 11:27 AM   #2467
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A Children’s Illustrator Is Losing Fans Because Of Her Anti-Racist Art

“There are no words to express how little I care if I lose every bigoted, racist, homophobic and/or sexist follower I have.”

Illustrator Mary Engelbreit has made many fans for her work in stationery, home goods, and children’s books for over 30 years. But today, some of those fans are not so happy with anti-racist artwork she’s posted on her Facebook as a tribute to Michael Brown, who was killed nearly a year ago.




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Regardless of the details of Michael Browns actions,none of which deserved the death penalty, by the way, his death made people open their eyes to the racism in this country. It opened the eyes of the government on local, state, and federal levels. It became impossible to ignore anymore. Changes are slowly being made. Today, on the 1 year anniversary of his death, peaceful protests are being held across the country. This is my way of participating in those peaceful protests. If you'd like to leave this page and throw out all your ME items, be my guest. Just don't throw them AT people--- that would not be peaceful.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ariannarebol...art#.xvYp5M6v8

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http://m.motherjones.com/politics/20...xcessive-fines

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Stop and think about that for a moment: In Ferguson, 75 percent of all residents had active outstanding arrest warrants. Most of the entire city was a virtual plantation of indentured revenue producers.
Not the most neutral of sources, but a worthwhile article anyway.
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Old 08-14-2015, 02:41 PM   #2469
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Unarmed man attempts murder on police officer. Very relevant for the ongoing discussion in this thread.

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A Birmingham, Alabama, police detective who was pistol-whipped unconscious said Friday that he hesitated to use force because he didn't want to be accused of needlessly killing an unarmed man.
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Old 08-15-2015, 12:48 AM   #2470
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Unarmed man attempts murder on police officer. Very relevant for the ongoing discussion in this thread.



http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/ala...ped/index.html
The thread theme seems do be racially motivated excessive force. The uproar has been about unarmed minorities who appread to be complying or using non violence against the officers.

I feel bad for what happened to this officer.Whether its violence against the officer in this case or stepping over the line with a civilian, it is not following police policy that is getting them into trouble and. All the headlines say to afraid to shoot the suspect. As discussed throughout the thread there are other tools at the officers disposal aswell. Guns shouldn't be the immediate tool used unless it's absolutely necessary. I understand he was a detective and they don't carry alot of equipment because they usually don't make traffic stops alot.

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Old 08-15-2015, 04:29 AM   #2471
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Unarmed man attempts murder on police officer. Very relevant for the ongoing discussion in this thread.



http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/ala...ped/index.html

Neither person in this incident is dead, I'd call that a totally satisfactory and acceptable outcome.
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Neither person in this incident is dead, I'd call that a totally satisfactory and acceptable outcome.
How? How is what happened satisfactory and acceptable? A criminal act occurred and a guy was beaten into unconsciousness. People took photos during and after without rendering assistance.

I'd say it's neither acceptable or satisfactory and if you think it is, then I'd say you're disdain for police colours what you think is ok.
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Neither person in this incident is dead, I'd call that a totally satisfactory and acceptable outcome.
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How? How is what happened satisfactory and acceptable? A criminal act occurred and a guy was beaten into unconsciousness. People took photos during and after without rendering assistance.

I'd say it's neither acceptable or satisfactory and if you think it is, then I'd say you're disdain for police colours what you think is ok.

You know, you're right. I chose my words poorly. The outcome is not satisfactory. A satisfactory outcome would have been no one hurt, suspect in custody.

However, I would take an alive, pistol whipped anyone over a dead anyone else pretty much 100 times out of 100, so I guess the better wording would have been "acceptable but unsatisfactory outcome."
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You know, you're right. I chose my words poorly. The outcome is not satisfactory. A satisfactory outcome would have been no one hurt, suspect in custody.

However, I would take an alive, pistol whipped anyone over a dead anyone else pretty much 100 times out of 100, so I guess the better wording would have been "acceptable but unsatisfactory outcome."
So with this approach, rather than shooting the criminals in scenarios where they are about to kill them, cops should just hand over their guns so they can be pistol whipped to near death.

This is exactly the point of the article - that there are people who think it's acceptable for a cop to be almost killed rather than shooting a dirt bag.

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You know, you're right. I chose my words poorly. The outcome is not satisfactory. A satisfactory outcome would have been no one hurt, suspect in custody.

However, I would take an alive, pistol whipped anyone over a dead anyone else pretty much 100 times out of 100, so I guess the better wording would have been "acceptable but unsatisfactory outcome."
It's acceptable? Because the only unacceptable outcome is death? That's some interesting reasoning. I am sure you'd be saying the same thing if the police wrongfully shot and wounded an armed man, "Well, at least he didn't die... seems acceptable."
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What a weird story.

The officer considered shooting the guy, but instead he turned his back to him while talking on the phone.

Something must be missing here. How do you get sucker punched by a guy you think is so dangerous that you might have to kill him?
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You know, you're right. I chose my words poorly. The outcome is not satisfactory. A satisfactory outcome would have been no one hurt, suspect in custody.
Satisfied to me is that no crime was committed.

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However, I would take an alive, pistol whipped anyone over a dead anyone else pretty much 100 times out of 100, so I guess the better wording would have been "acceptable but unsatisfactory outcome."
What a load of crap.

People like you continuing this narrative is what resulted in the officer
'taking it easy' on this guy.
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