Yup. Yhey state its because there morale is low. Bull####. You get paid by the public to do a job so do it. This is the same bs the police union pulled in New York. It's a fricken ultimatum tactic. Stop questioning our actions as public figures or we will let the whole city turn to #### by turning a blind eye to most things.
You wanted to be a a police officer now do your job . Tax money pays to do a job so do it. Being a public figure means the public has every right to scrutinize you. The tax payers pay your salary. You dont like it then quit dont sit there like a 5 year old pouting and let your community fall to ####.
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Yah except they are constantly getting s*** on for making arrests and "harassment" within the community. I what the Baltimore mayors as to say about theses numbers, she ws very outspoken about the police department and nobody came blame the PD for taking a work to rule approach based on 1) what has been going n in the city 2) the reactions from the black community and 3) the mayor.
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Yup. Yhey state its because there morale is low. Bull####. You get paid by the public to do a job so do it. This is the same bs the police union pulled in New York. It's a fricken ultimatum tactic. Stop questioning our actions as public figures or we will let the whole city turn to #### by turning a blind eye to most things.
You wanted to be a a police officer now do your job . Tax money pays to do a job so do it. Being a public figure means the public has every right to scrutinize you. The tax payers pay your salary. You dont like it then quit dont sit there like a 5 year old pouting and let your community fall to ####.
This video and these guys are a enraging. "Barbaric amounts of Police Brutality in NYC", "Rod Wheeler is a hack", "Don't target the wrong people", "the cops are the main problem here". Those are just quotes from the first 3 minutes, what an awful panel for a discusison.... I could not finish watching these clowns.
With 38 murders in one month, I would say the police are the least of the problems in Baltimore.
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I think the problem is that it is almost impossible for the public to distinguish between racial harassment and what is legitimate policing when looking at statistics. It's fairly easy in isolated cases.
You can't look at numbers and say that because there is a disproportionate number of black people arrested or in prison, it must be unfair. The sad truth is, many black communities have higher crime rates. There are many reasons for that, and most of them tragic, but the police still have an obligation to take it on. Politicians on the other hand, have an obligation to correct the root causes of crime (mainly being poverty and lack of economic mobility), but that is probably off topic..
Then you see these situations where black people are obviously profiled, harassed, and victims of excessive force, and you know that their concerns are quite valid. The problem is that extremists see it as only one way or another, but there is a whole grey area in there.
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Officials with the city of Barstow, California insisted this week that officers had acted properly when they used force to arrest a pregnant woman who refused to show them her identification, even though the charges were later dismissed.
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“I don’t see a crime that has been committed,” the officer admits after examining the woman’s car. After promising the woman a police report, the officer heads over to talk to Cooks.
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“I actually do have the right to ask you for your name,” the officer replies.
“Let me make sure,” Cooks says as she makes a phone call to someone.
The officer says he will give Cooks two minutes to verify his right to ask for her identification. But less than 20 seconds later, the officer and a colleague are performing a painful wristlock takedown on Cooks. The pregnant woman screams as she is forced belly first into the ground.
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ACLU SoCal staff attorney Adrienna Wong pointed out that Cooks had a right to refuse to show her ID.
“It would be a wrongful arrest, but it would be an arrest,” she noted. “Even if an officer is conducting an investigation, in California, unlike some other states, he can’t just require a person to provide ID for no reason.”
“Officers in California should not be using the obstruction law, Penal Code 148, to arrest someone for failing to provide ID, when they can’t find any other reason to arrest them,” Wong added.
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ACLU SoCal staff attorney Jessica Price observed that Cooks, who is black, was handled very differently than the white woman.
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In a separate settlement with ACLU SoCal, the City of Barstow agreed to provide training to its officers after two brothers were arrested for refusing to provide identification. Charges against the brothers were dropped and the city agreed to pay $30,000 in damages.
Yah except they are constantly getting s*** on for making arrests and "harassment" within the community. I what the Baltimore mayors as to say about theses numbers, she ws very outspoken about the police department and nobody came blame the PD for taking a work to rule approach based on 1) what has been going n in the city 2) the reactions from the black community and 3) the mayor.
The city of Baltimore--and thus the tax-paying citizens of Baltimore--spent $5.7 million dollars in order to settle with victims of police brutality, between only 2011 and 2014.
They're not just "making arrests," they are actually harassing the community, using excessive force on a very regular basis, and the settlement numbers prove it.
You can do your job--you can deal with homicides and genuine threats to public safety, without beating the crap out of people, innocent or otherwise. And if you can't manage to do police work without resorting to excessive force, you shouldn't be a police officer.
And if you're going to be a petulant 8 year old because you and your co-workers came under some (much deserved) scrutiny, then you should probably put on leave until you can get your **** together and realize that you're a police officer, not a marine going up against ISIS. An officer who refuses to do his job because someone expects him to do it without excessive force needs to be reminded that he/she promised to protect and serve.
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“Can you tell me why I’m being arrested?” Hamza Jeylani asks an officer in a video captured on his cell phone.
“Because I feel like arresting you,” the officer, who the American Civil Liberties Union identifies as Officer Rod Webber, replies in the short video.
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“Plain and simple,” Webber tells Jeylani, “if you #### with me I’m going to break your legs before you even get a chance to run.”
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According to the ACLU, Jeylani and four of his friends — all of whom are black teenagers — were pulled over after making a U-turn in a parking lot in South Minneapolis. The four young men had been playing basketball at a YMCA. Despite Officer Webber’s statement that Jeylani was arrested because the cop felt like arresting him, the police claim that they suspected the four youth of stealing the car they were driving. Jeylani, however, says that the driver of the car had documents showing that he owned the car. And the ACLU adds that “police said the stolen car they were after was a blue Honda Civic. The teenagers, however, were driving a blue Toyota Camry.”
In recent years (some cities list as far back as ten years, others only list 2-5 of the last years) just ten of the biggest cities in the US, taxpayers have foot the bill for more than $1.1 billion dollars in settlements for excessive use of force by police.
Do you have any idea what good could be done for infrastructure, schools, medical centers, etc with 1.1 billion dollars? In Chicago alone, between 2004 and 2014 the city paid out $521 million to people who were treated wrongly by the police. This isn't a minor problem.
You can tell me over and over that police are just doing their jobs. If they're just doing their jobs--why are so many people winning cases against them for instances of wrongful arrest, excessive force, etc, etc?
No one is saying there aren't good police officers out there. But the bad ones are making the whole group look really, really bad, and something needs to be done about it.
In recent years (some cities list as far back as ten years, others only list 2-5 of the last years) just ten of the biggest cities in the US, taxpayers have foot the bill for more than $1.1 billion dollars in settlements for excessive use of force by police.
Do you have any idea what good could be done for infrastructure, schools, medical centers, etc with 1.1 billion dollars? In Chicago alone, between 2004 and 2014 the city paid out $521 million to people who were treated wrongly by the police. This isn't a minor problem.
You can tell me over and over that police are just doing their jobs. If they're just doing their jobs--why are so many people winning cases against them for instances of wrongful arrest, excessive force, etc, etc?
No one is saying there aren't good police officers out there. But the bad ones are making the whole group look really, really bad, and something needs to be done about it.
Baltimore just cut the budget to the school system and told them they were had no extra cash then shorly after approved a 30million dollar juvenile detention centre instead.
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This video and these guys are a enraging. "Barbaric amounts of Police Brutality in NYC", "Rod Wheeler is a hack", "Don't target the wrong people", "the cops are the main problem here". Those are just quotes from the first 3 minutes, what an awful panel for a discusison.... I could not finish watching these clowns.
With 38 murders in one month, I would say the police are the least of the problems in Baltimore.
When the cops back off from doing their jobs properly then that emboldeneds the criminals confidence to perpetrate this crimes . Baltimore has not seen crime rates like this in decades. Cops pout they can't do what they like anymore and stop doing their jobs is not a coincidence that crime rates go up.
If you knew anything about Rod Wheeler before this video thats a pretty accurate description of him.
Rod Wheeler joined FOX News Channel (FNC) as a contributor in 2005. To be a regular on Fox you just have to lie and be a good fear monger regardless on wht you beleive.
Wheeler is the founder and president of Rod Wheeler & Associates, a criminal investigation firm. He also serves as a consultant to the food and agricultural industry on matters of homeland security.
He graduated from Ohio State University with a bachelor's degree in criminology/criminal justice, and holds a investigative master's degree in public administration from American University.
The NYCPD has a terrible history with police brutality. Thats a fact . You don't even have to go that far back in history. Eg Stop and Frisk.
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military-trained officer who killed two unarmed men. A must read. This is the type of people that are becoming to common with American police forces.
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Rankin shot dead 18-year-old William Chapman at a Walmart last month, four years after he was barred from patrols for killing another citizen
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“What’s the difference if it was one round or 11 rounds or 111 rounds?” he wrote, using the screen name ‘yourealythinkthat’. “When I was in Iraq, that would have been a good shoot,” he said later. “In fact, nobody would have really given it a second thought.” Speaking under oath six months and 246 supportive comments later, Rankin, a US navy veteran, admitted that ‘yourealythinkthat’ was him.
The jury in a $22m civil lawsuit brought by Denyakin’s family nonetheless found in Rankin’s favour. By then, a grand jury had declined to indict him for killing Denyakin while responding to a 911 call about the 26-year-old banging drunkenly and aggressively on the door of a building where he had been staying with friends.
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Rankin’s use of a pseudonym online was understandable. He was chided by police chiefs when he publicly referred on Facebook to his firearms case as “Rankin’s box of vengeance” and said it “would be better if i was dirtying them instead of cleaning them!”
For a while, his Facebook avatar was a screen print of a photograph depicting a Serb left hanging from a lamp post by invading Nazi forces in 1943.
On April 22, the Portsmouth, Virginia, Police Department claimed that 18-year-old William Chapman was suspected of shoplifting from a local Walmart. Completely unarmed, he was shot in the face and killed by an officer with a record so heinous that it is criminal he was ever allowed on the force in
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The officer who killed Chapman is Stephen Rankin, who had been suspended from street patrol for nearly three years after he killed another unarmed man.
Chiefs only allowed Rankin to return to front line policing in March last year, almost three years after he killed an unarmed 26-year-old Kazakhstani immigrant in February 2011. Rankin was later found to have insulted the man and his family in other online postings.
A sergeant in the department at the time told the Guardian that senior commanders were formally warned by one of Rankin’s supervisors weeks before his first fatal shooting that he was “dangerous” and likely to cause someone harm.
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In addition to this suspension and warnings from his superiors that he was likely to cause harm, Rankin had also been suspended for posting Nazi-inspired images and messages online.
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Yup. Yhey state its because there morale is low. Bull####. You get paid by the public to do a job so do it. This is the same bs the police union pulled in New York. It's a fricken ultimatum tactic. Stop questioning our actions as public figures or we will let the whole city turn to #### by turning a blind eye to most things.
You wanted to be a a police officer now do your job . Tax money pays to do a job so do it. Being a public figure means the public has every right to scrutinize you. The tax payers pay your salary. You dont like it then quit dont sit there like a 5 year old pouting and let your community fall to ####.
With all the complaining about how brutal and corrupt the police are, you would think that it would be a good thing if they stopped working.
When they do work, all they do is 'harass' and 'profile'. When they don't work, they are letting the community fall to ####.
