02-16-2016, 10:14 AM
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#881
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Originally Posted by Weitz
Didn't the article said that once it was determined by the NDP person that they were accredited and present, their credentials were removed and they were kicked out?
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All it mentioned was that when it was discovered who she worked for, she was kicked out. So not sure about accreditation.
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02-16-2016, 10:17 AM
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#883
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Originally Posted by Slava
Well let's say that him and his people are banned from attending. What difference will that make for the average guy? Why should people really care here?
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Your "why should people really care" is in the wrong direction. Why should people care if they let another journalist in, especially if you don't visit their site?
Cutting out dissenting commentary is some weak garbage and not something I, and many others obviously, want to see in Canadian politics. So, yes, people should care.
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02-16-2016, 10:19 AM
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#884
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Originally Posted by Slava
I just don't think that we need all of these people in the budget lock-up. I don't really care if its Levant, or the CTF of CFIB or whoever. What purpose does it serve?
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Originally Posted by Slava
Well let's say that him and his people are banned from attending. What difference will that make for the average guy? Why should people really care here?
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Freedom of the Press?
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02-16-2016, 10:22 AM
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#885
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Sorry, that wasn't what I meant. If they had denied his organization based on him breaking journalistic ethics, they may have a leg to stand on.
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Sure, maybe. I'd sure as hell be leery of a government making that decision for the public though.
But I haven't seen any indication of this and the speculation of it still seems to be grasping at a justification of a terrible decision by the provincial government.
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02-16-2016, 10:24 AM
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#886
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by nik-
Your "why should people really care" is in the wrong direction. Why should people care if they let another journalist in, especially if you don't visit their site?
Cutting out dissenting commentary is some weak garbage and not something I, and many others obviously, want to see in Canadian politics. So, yes, people should care.
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Originally Posted by chemgear
Freedom of the Press?
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OK, but again, this isn't freedom of the press or freedom of speech. They can say whatever they want or still operate in the exact same manner. They just won't be in the lock-up. So we have to wait an extra hour or two to hear their opinion on things. Hardly a concern.
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02-16-2016, 10:27 AM
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#887
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Originally Posted by Slava
OK, but again, this isn't freedom of the press or freedom of speech. They can say whatever they want or still operate in the exact same manner. They just won't be in the lock-up. So we have to wait an extra hour or two to hear their opinion on things. Hardly a concern.
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I mean obviously you're fine with it, it's hardly a concern for you. Others are seeing it the way it is, locking out dissent.
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02-16-2016, 10:31 AM
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#888
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Originally Posted by nik-
I mean obviously you're fine with it, it's hardly a concern for you. Others are seeing it the way it is, locking out dissent.
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Sure and I might be convinced if someone could point to something that we might be missing in terms of the dissent.
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02-16-2016, 10:33 AM
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#889
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If the principles of press access aren't going to convince you, then I hardly believe anything will.
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02-16-2016, 10:40 AM
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#890
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Join Date: Mar 2015
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Originally Posted by chemgear
Sure, maybe. I'd sure as hell be leery of a government making that decision for the public though.
But I haven't seen any indication of this and the speculation of it still seems to be grasping at a justification of a terrible decision by the provincial government.
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Agreed. It certainly isn't something you do at the time an event is occurring. This is something you would take care of well removed form a press conference, if that is the way you want to go.
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02-16-2016, 10:44 AM
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#891
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Ezra likes (needs?) nothing more than something to bitch about, and they really handed him something to bitch about now.
Just let the little weirdo and his minions in the room already. Access or not, he's still going to hack on the NDP no matter what they do. Not going to stop that, but you will give him some bogus "freedom of the press" claim.
On that note, this is not a "freedom of the press" issue. Every party has some gear-grinder that they don't like and try to shut out.
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02-16-2016, 10:53 AM
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#892
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Ezra likes (needs?) nothing more than something to bitch about, and they really handed him something to bitch about now.
Just let the little weirdo and his minions in the room already. Access or not, he's still going to hack on the NDP no matter what they do. Not going to stop that, but you will give him some bogus "freedom of the press" claim.
On that note, this is not a "freedom of the press" issue. Every party has some gear-grinder that they don't like and try to shut out.
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that to me is a freedom of the press issue though. To me there is nothing more wrong then a government that tried to limit access so they can shape their message through friendly media.
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02-16-2016, 10:57 AM
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#893
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The other issue is that the NDP had a Rebel journalist removed from a common area for the express purpose of keeping them from asking someone for comment. The individual could have declined to comment, but in this case the NDP decided that The Rebel had no right to even ask their questions.
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02-16-2016, 11:03 AM
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#894
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
that to me is a freedom of the press issue though. To me there is nothing more wrong then a government that tried to limit access so they can shape their message through friendly media.
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They all shape their message. That's what they do.
They barred Ezra's crowd from a meeting and they aren't going to talk to him. He's still allowed to do and say whatever he wants about them, and he will.
Freedom of the press doesn't mean that the sitting government has to talk to every crank who wants in.
I think it was a bad idea too, but let's not turn it into some sort of crime that threatens democracy.
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02-16-2016, 11:15 AM
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#895
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
To me there is nothing more wrong then a government that tried to limit access so they can shape their message through friendly media.
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But you were okay when Harper did it in Ottawa?
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Originally Posted by fotze
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02-16-2016, 11:17 AM
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#896
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
But you were okay when Harper did it in Ottawa?
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Nope never said I was.
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02-16-2016, 01:23 PM
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#897
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Lifetime Suspension
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Hey we're all talking about Ezra Levant again
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02-16-2016, 01:27 PM
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#898
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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This is exactly what the Rebel wants - poor move by the NDP - but it seems they just give a damn anymore because well they probably aren't around next election
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02-16-2016, 01:58 PM
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#899
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Lifetime Suspension
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We probably don't need an official government statement that Levant is not a reporter, but for those that think otherwise see below.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...ces-and-events
“Our rationale on this is very simple and it comes down to one thing: It’s the fact that Ezra Levant himself has testified under oath that he is not a reporter and so we don’t consider him a reporter,” she said — apparently referencing Levant’s 2014 testimony in Ontario Superior Court as a defendant in a libel case.
“I’m a commentator, I’m a pundit,” Levant said at trial. “I don’t think in my entire life I’ve ever called myself a reporter.”
“If you go to court and testify under oath that you are not a reporter, the government doesn’t consider you a reporter,” Oates said.
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02-16-2016, 02:22 PM
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#900
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Why do they allow the other left leaning guys in though?
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