[News] With the #22 overall pick the Flames select LW/RW Emile Poirier

[PlayfulGenius]

I'm cheering for this kid as much as any prospect the Flames have ever had...I hope this kid turns out to be a meaner Matt Duchene

It will be sweet justice to have Poirier develop into a Top 5 pick in this draft...right up there Monahan, of course.

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Neither of your points make any sense since I wasn't suggesting any of the Flames picks are above criticizing nor was I suggesting we shouldn't debate them.

Try again, JayP.

I think he misunderstood your point in the post, is all.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Overall Kent Wilson sums up my feelings of the Flames draft well which is that it was a good day but they didn't really get great value on the Bouwmeester/Iginla returns in using those picks on consensus 2nd round players. Time will tell of course but this organization isn't rich in positive draft history so it's hard to believe this July will be different as least on the surface when it seemed like there were some missed opportunities;

http://flamesnation.ca/2013/7/1/flam...draft-thoughts

Here's hoping the proceeds from these trades are as disappointing as the second rounders we got for Kent Nilsson back in the day.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by sun

Huh, I didn't realize the habs picked Fucale with our second. Kinda interesting.

The Pens might have got a real gem in Oil Kings backup Tristan Jarry. I know some on this board have been pretty high on him the past year or so. He played behing Flames prospect Laurent Brossoit but played really well each time he was called to start.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Neither of your points make any sense since I wasn't suggesting any of the Flames picks are above criticizing nor was I suggesting we shouldn't debate them.

Try again, JayP.

Yeah, you haven't gone out of your way to cut down people who haven't liked certain Flames picks over the weekend at all.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

The Pens might have got a real gem in Oil Kings backup Tristan Jarry. I know some on this board have been pretty high on him the past year or so. He played behing Flames prospect Laurent Brossoit but played really well each time he was called to start.

No kidding. Some people who watched him and Fucale play a lot last season think Tristan has higher upside, and could have legitimately been considered the best goalie in the draft. Will be interesting to see how those two goalies pan out in the long run.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by JayP

Yeah, you haven't gone out of your way to cut down people who haven't liked certain Flames picks over the weekend at all.

Poor you.

I've gone out of my way to cut down people who've gotten angry because they're ignorant, big difference. If someone doesn't like a player that they've seen and are knowledgeable about that, that's totally fine.

[Prufrock]

Flames TV presents: The Poiriers

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Prufrock

Flames TV presents: The Poiriers

Wow most interviews she does turn out to be toe-curling bad...

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Wow most interviews she does turn out to be toe-curling bad...

Good thing she is cute lol .

[Delthefunky]

That was toe curling bad.

[Bingo]

I wrote an article for the forecaster a few years back that looked at this exact situation. I analyzed draft picks that fall compared to Central Scouting views going into a draft, while I also looked at players that were taken ahead of their expected place.

The brunt of the article wasn't on players though, it was on organizations and their habits.

The Oilers were big culprits in that time frame for taking players that were sliding (Henrich, Riesen, Rita), while the Devils I think were the poster boys for going off teh board.

The teams with conviction far outweighed the falling star teams in their overall success ratio.

If you hire idiots then conviction is scary, you can't avoid that.

But if you believe the Flames have a new direction under Weisbrod then you're glad they have conviction.

Bottomline though ... it's always fair to compare the next three players taken after a draft pick. Further than that is unfair.

Hopefully it goes their way.

[Max Cow Disease]

Underwhelming group-hug capabilities apparent within the Poirier clan.

[dammage79]

Go home Kristen Hallet, You're drunk.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

What a bizarre and borderline stupid article.

What does this, have to do with anything?


All that means is that Poirier is a late bloomer compared to other players in his draft class.

This guy is just finding things to yammer on about.

Amateurish writing on a website that looks like it's stuck in 1999. Is Geocities hosting that site?

Is this shocking? These are the same dolts that when we signed Chris Breen as a free agent said something to the effect of how even though they had never seen him and never read a scouting report that he would never amount to anything because he wasn't drafted.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Poor you.

I've gone out of my way to cut down people who've gotten angry because they're ignorant, big difference. If someone doesn't like a player that they've seen and are knowledgeable about that, that's totally fine.

yeah, because you've never posted in anger have you?

people that look at the film and loves the player get kudos and high fives, people that look at the film and aren't super impressed or think the asset management could have been better spent get jeered.

weird how that works isn't it?

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Is this shocking? These are the same dolts that when we signed Chris Breen as a free agent said something to the effect of how even though they had never seen him and never read a scouting report that he would never amount to anything because he wasn't drafted.

The jury is still out on Breen.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

The jury is still out on Breen.

Considering that they more or less said he never had a chance to be an NHLer, they are already wrong. It's just a matter of how wrong.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Considering that they more or less said he never had a chance to be an NHLer, they are already wrong. It's just a matter of how wrong.

this is the salient quote from FN:

"As for Breen, the Flames have been good at identifying free agents coming out of junior under Sutter's reign (Giordano, Wideman, Richie Regehr, Ryan Wilson), but it would surprise me he had NHL upside. Any guy who stands 6'7" and doesn't get drafted in junior must have some pretty significant holes in his game. That said, I've never seen him nor read any scouting reports, so it's possible there's more to him than just merely being huge."

seem pretty innocuous to me...

I far as I know, he hasn't played a game in the NHL? Am I mistaken? I can't find any stats at least...

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

The jury is still out on Breen.

You're dead wrong here...relative o the situation, the signing has already paid off as he's been great with the Heat. All reports have him being NHL ready...for a non drafted player, it's already been a success