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Old 03-20-2008, 01:54 PM   #81
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Thinking that 10% of children are being raised by the wrong father is frightening to me.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:28 PM   #82
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"On the next episode of Mythbusters, Grant, Torrey, and Carey will test out the myth that you can still get pregnant after a vasectomy".
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:29 PM   #83
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Thinking that 10% of children are being raised by the wrong father is frightening to me.
Why? There's nothing magical contributing directly to the genetic code of one's child.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:37 PM   #84
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i don't want to raise a child i wasn't a part of making.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:42 PM   #85
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I find this story hard to believe. But...

We are really splitting hairs here. Both of these characters are scumbags, far as I can tell. Is she more of a scumbag than him? Not really.

Anyone who says they are "giddy" at the thought of elaborately humiliating a pregnant woman is a world class dickhead, even if she did cheat on him. He didn't even care about her, he wasn't hurt or humiliated or in any way. He just wanted to be mean.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:42 PM   #86
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The guy in the story's a total ######, but what the woman was doing was far worse. If the story is true (which I also doubt), she might have actually thought it was truly his, and only after she was presented with the documents did she realize that it was the other guy she slept with. Whatever the case, its her own fault for sleeping around.

What's worse though, is that she's potentially ruining not just the guy's life, but the life of the unborn child as well. Imagine growing up and then only finding out later that your dad isn't your real dad. Not only will your relationship with the dad change forever, you're now basically paying for the mistake of your parents. That, I would think, would be the worst part of this whole ordeal.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:43 PM   #87
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i don't want to raise a child i wasn't a part of making.
But why? I think adoption is a great thing but I know a lot of people think the same way, but I don't really understand why.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:47 PM   #88
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But why? I think adoption is a great thing but I know a lot of people think the same way, but I don't really understand why.
I guess my take on that is, I wouldn't want to raise a kid that I didn't know wasn't mine. (holy negatives Batman!)
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But why? I think adoption is a great thing but I know a lot of people think the same way, but I don't really understand why.
there is a big difference between knowingly going into a situation like adoption and being lied to by the woman you love and is supposed to love you and being tricked into adoption.

are you saying that finding this out years later would have no bad side effects on any of the parties involved? there would be hurt and anger over being lied to, but of course you will still love the child, hard to stop something like that after raising the child.
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It's one thing to make a conscious choice to adopt a child, it's quite another to have that choice forced upon you.
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Ah ok, it's the false pretenses that are the problem.
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It is great when you know its adoption going into the deal. Of course the guy (fictional as he may be) is a ######, but the magnitude of the consequences of their actions are so vastly different.

I think paternity tests should be mandatory for every child born. There would be no harm in it because once you see that baby everything would just wash away, so what if the kid isn't yours, bygones be bygones. Pretending it wouldn't hurt your feelings would make you look like the better person, and being the better person is what its all about.

Also, I never knew you could go to the doctor to periodically check for blanks? Hey its been 3 months, might as well go to see if I'm still shooting blanks. They should do this in a drive-thru, just fling it in there with your hand and then get a statement in the mail a week later that you can then use to humiliate poor women who have obviously been oppressed for too long forcing them to lie.

You guys are saints for being so forgiving in a case like this. I guess that's why this happens infrequently, because it works.
No way. They should send nurses out to collect the specimen in the privacy of your home, just like insurance companies send nurses for insurance policy exams. Buxom nurses. In nylons. And stilettos.
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:37 PM   #93
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Moral of the story:

Women are evil and are still trying to 'trap' men therefore they shouldn't be trusted.

The moral of the story if you read between the lines:

This story is probably fake and the guy who wrote it is a huge misogynistic prick.
That's what I got from it too. To plan all this out, and for what? So you can throw it into an obviously crazy person's face? Big man now, don't you feel special. How about dating a sane person?

The main reason this is obviously fake is the only reason to do this would be to talk about it on the internet and we all know that people that take the internet that seriously never get laid.
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That's what I got from it too. To plan all this out, and for what? So you can throw it into an obviously crazy person's face? Big man now, don't you feel special. How about dating a sane person?

The main reason this is obviously fake is the only reason to do this would be to talk about it on the internet and we all know that people that take the internet that seriously never get laid.
Obviously crazy? There is nothing crazy about her actions. They are quite well though out and manipulative. His actions are just plain hilarious.
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Why? There's nothing magical contributing directly to the genetic code of one's child.
Except that it violates the your genetic purpose in life - passing on and guaranteeing the survival your genes and not somebody elses...unless it's your close family which share the same genes.

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Obviously crazy? There is nothing crazy about her actions. They are quite well though out and manipulative. His actions are just plain hilarious.
Not about her actions, her motivations. Her actions were rational based on her motivations but her motivations are not at all rational. Going to pin some guy with a baby so he'll stay with me forever and love me. Yeah that will work.
For this to be funny, you have a very misogynistic view. Women are not objects. Using them for a good lay is not OK. Debasing them as stupid and not rational is not funny or true, it's stupid, false, and destructive.
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Not about her actions, her motivations. Her actions were rational based on her motivations but her motivations are not at all rational. Going to pin some guy with a baby so he'll stay with me forever and love me. Yeah that will work.
For this to be funny, you have a very misogynistic view. Women are not objects. Using them for a good lay is not OK. Debasing them as stupid and not rational is not funny or true, it's stupid, false, and destructive.
The motivations are once again totally sane and totally selfish. I'll cheat on my boyfriend with a rockstar, because sleeping with other people is fun. Ooops I got caught and don't want to be a single mother or fess up to my boyfriend about the cheating and I realize dating a rock star long term is a bad idea so I'll lie to my boyfriend. Now I stay with the honest man and he will support me.

I find this hilarious and it has nothing to do with objectifying people in any way. It has to do with Karma. I think the part about sleeping with her beforehand was a little bit harsh, but everything else is just flat out hilarious. The sleeping with her part really wasn't the main part of the story, it had a lot more to do with someone flat out busted being caught in a massive web of lies.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:42 PM   #98
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I wonder why these stories don't have any mention of the panic over STDs that a cheating partner would be sure to incite in me...
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:42 PM   #99
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Wait, when did i say woman are our enemies? I said if someone tries to screw you over. In this case, the someone is a girl, so she is his enemy. What this chick did had the potential to ruin the dudes life. If somebody (man or woman) tried to ruin my life for their any selfish little reason, yes, i would go out of my way to piss them off a bit if i had the chance.
So, long story short, I guess I'm a ######. However, if that's all it takes to be a ######, I'll gladly accept the title.

Lets all remember if this girl wasnt trying to screw him over it wouldnt have happened. Maybe when he asked if she was sure it was his she should have said "I think so, but there was this one other guy..." I bet he would have acted a bit differently then.

And now something for all the guys saying the dude's an idiot for screwing her just because she was hot (or some variation of that)... the story says he met the girl, then he describes her as attractive, good sex, and decent company. Then he goes on to say they were DATING FOR MONTHS. Now, is the guy an a-hole because he was originally attracted to his girlfriend because she was hot? and is he an a-hole because he was screwing his girlfriend?

You're right, the 'enemies' crack was over-exaggeration, and was directed to the 'payback' comment. So many men see the man/woman issue as an us v. them scenario. The woman in this case is a total b***c, and truly deserves a guy like this, but I can't imagine going through the trouble he did just to lord himself over her. Whatever gets you hard, I guess.

I was surprised to see this thread still active...
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Except that it violates the your genetic purpose in life - passing on and guaranteeing the survival your genes and not somebody elses...unless it's your close family which share the same genes.
Good point! I disagree with the biological urge then.
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