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Old 11-09-2016, 07:43 AM   #121
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Nah. Remember all the fear mongering about Harper's secret agenda? It amounted to little more than just that. There's only so much that any elected official can do in four years. It's been 1/4 into Jr's term already and he's accomplished very little to date good or bad. If Trump is to get two terms then I suppose things could change but if that's the case then I suppose it would be welcomed change by the voters.
Except the written down published agenda is what is scary with the Repubs. Not the secret one. Harper politically is in line with the Hillary Dems.
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My wife spent the last 5 months travelling around the States for work and said she couldn't believe the number of Trump signs and support she saw everywhere. She came back from Ohio as her last trip in October and said "He's going to win." The states she visited were Illinois (Hillary), Ohio (Trump), Louisiana (Trump), North Carolina (Trump) and Florida (Trump).
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God damn, even the sunrise looks ominous.
At least it came up this morning, so thats a positive I guess.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:53 AM   #126
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Funny how the market works. Emotion floods into the market then computers take over and everything migrates back to trend lines. It will be interesting to see who wins, man or machine. The premarkets would have been very interesting to trade yesterday and today.
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Have to laugh at all the stupid Americans who supported a racist and a sexist. Honestly what a shame and a joke that even one poster on this site is defending him and congratulating him.

Do people not take sexual assault seriously? Racism? If you support Trump, you're honestly a bad person. Period.

The man treats women like they are property. The same posters who hate the way Middle Eastern presidents treat women are supporting a man who treats women like garbage. A man so sick and demented said he would date his own daughter if she wasn't his daughter: He is as sexist as they come and some on this site don't care because? He made some false promises? It's pretty pathetic and honestly it's no shock who these posters are who are defending Trump.
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Pfizer up 9.8% and Merck up 6%. I'm guessing that's not because consumers are about to get a better deal.
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The biggest winner out of all this is Alec Baldwin.
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And Sean Hannity.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:58 AM   #131
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It is a little surprising Trump handily beat Clinton with white women. You would think a white woman would be happy to vote for the next president to be one of them. Especially when they other option is Trump. I just can't quite wrap my head around that.

The lower numbers of Latinos voting for Trump makes sense only in that in any group of people you are going to have a certain amount that vote the way they do no logical reason.
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I, for one, am damned tired of paying for other people that make a career out of doing nothing more than reproducing. I've worked my ass off for my entire life and have never asked the government for a penny, much less demanded it, or felt entitled to it.

It's ridiculous. White taxes matter.
Are you saying black and latino people are living off white people's dollar, only reproducing and solely living off government aid?
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The biggest thing for me is Trump is so clearly sexist and racist, I can't understand how people want him to represent their country. Mind bottling.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:59 AM   #133
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Here is a positive spin on this...
This election testifies to the vibrancy of American democracy. A candidate was able to win against the wishes of the "Establishment"... twice. The Republican grandees opposed him, yet he mopped the floor with their "safe" candidates. Then the national "Establishment"/Elite did not want him and yet he still won, despite being outspent 1.5-1 I believe and having the entire mainstream media against him. The people have the power - democracy works. As I said last night, if you want universal suffrage, you have to live with and embrace all its implications.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:59 AM   #134
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Hah, think Obama will pardon Clinton? Probably not as that would look too much like an admission of guilt, but would be nice as then people can all just move on.
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Gratz to all the Trumpers.

I underestimated the number of bigots in the states. I think the shy Trump effect was really real.

I think it'll be interesting to see some of the kids get a dose of real alt right leadership... the kind that they accuse Harper of being.

Or maybe all of this amounts to nothing at all. We will see.
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Do people not take sexual assault seriously? Racism? If you support Trump, you're honestly a bad person. Period.
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Trump wasn't the only candidate with sexual assault 'issues' though.

Let's be frank, neither are good people. Clinton probably would have been better for the country, and definitely who I wanted to win, but no one had a moral high ground to stand on.
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The biggest thing for me is Trump is so clearly sexist and racist, I can't understand how people want him to represent their country. Mind bottling.
He won by getting a lot of support of racists and sexists. His talk of banning Muslims alone probably pushed him over the top.

Never underestimate the stupidity and fear of Americans.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:02 AM   #138
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The people have the power - democracy works. As I said last night, if you want universal suffrage, you have to live with and embrace all its implications.
Ok then, I don't want it anymore. Take it back, please.
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Here is a positive spin on this...
This election testifies to the vibrancy of American democracy. A candidate was able to win against the wishes of the "Establishment"... twice. The Republican grandees opposed him, yet he mopped the floor with their "safe" candidates. Then the national "Establishment"/Elite did not want him and yet he still won, despite being outspent 1.5-1 I believe and having the entire mainstream media against him. The people have the power - democracy works. As I said last night, if you want universal suffrage, you have to live with and embrace all its implications.
Except in this case, like in 2000, universal suffrage didn't win and democracy didn't work. Clinton had more votes cast for her but lost the electoral college. But alas, that's the system they have and the consequences the rest of the world has to live with now.
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The interesting thing is that Mitt Romney actually got more votes than Trump did. So it wasn't some magical turnout that powered him.

Hillary was such a disaster that she got 6 million fewer votes than Obama.
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