PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[Senator Clay Davis]

Small consolation for the Dems but they won NH both in the general and for Senate.

[White Out 403]

My facebook is covered in liberal tears. I cant believe I identify with these people on so many issues. Everyones crying racism, sexism, etc. How about you had a lousy candidate who sucked at talking the economy? Pretty simple.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I think it's clear though that he knew what he was doing. He kept everything very simple and emotional. The average voter now just does not comprehend the complexities of the world when they get into the voting booth. Telling them why free trade benefits them isn't going to get their attention. Telling them you'll bring their job back will. People don't want detailed policies, they want comfort.

Yep. Make America Great Again. Sunny Ways. Two sides of the same coin.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I think it's clear though that he knew what he was doing. He kept everything very simple and emotional. The average voter now just does not comprehend the complexities of the world when they get into the voting booth. Telling them why free trade benefits them isn't going to get their attention. Telling them you'll bring their job back will. People don't want detailed policies, they want comfort.

I don't know if it is more complex now. But social media has really dumbed down the world. You used to be able to listen or read analysis on issues by people who are experts in the field, and have done their research. You may have got a slant from one side or the other depending on your sources.

Now anyone with a bunch of followers on Facebook or their blog can recklessly convince millions of others of nonsensical and self defeating policies and viewpoints. People convince each other in viral group think that the real media has no clue what they are talking about and they convince themselves that they are all smarter than everyone else.

We already saw it with anti-vaxers and hollistic pyramid marketing products. It made its way into regional primaries, and now has grown to a critical mass where it decides national elections.

Hopefully there is a backlash to all this at some point and it corrects itself, but it will probably get worse before it gets better.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I don't know if it is more complex now. But social media has really dumbed down the world. You used to be able to listen or read analysis on issues by people who are experts in the field, and have done their research. You may have got a slant from one side or the other depending on your sources.

Now anyone with a bunch of followers on Facebook or their blog can recklessly convince millions of others of nonsensical and self defeating policies and viewpoints. People convince each other in viral group think that the real media has no clue what they are talking about and they convince themselves that they are all smarter than everyone else.

We already saw it with anti-vaxers and hollistic pyramid marketing products. It made its way into regional primaries, and now has grown to a critical mass where it decides national elections.

Hopefully there is a backlash to all this at some point and it corrects itself, but it will probably get worse before it gets better.

It is the job of journalists in the media to expose lies and fraud, not parrot each sides talking points as if they are political mouthpieces.

Utter failure by for-profit media.

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Who would venture into the American politics thread AKA The pile on Trump thread? What would that have gained you?

It's a common left wing theme. Make it socially unacceptable to say who you support. Label them a racist, a bigot, sexist if their views don't agree with yours. Easier to just say nothing at all.

When Trump says no illegal Mexicans in the u.s. The left says he's racist.

[Senator Clay Davis]

But I thought she was Wall Street's #1 choice?

Loud booing rocked the floor of the storied New York Stock Exchange on Wednesday during Hillary Clinton's concession speech to President-elect Donald Trump.

Some of the Wall Street traders began chanting "lock her up!," as Clinton appeared on television screens, urging her millions of disappointed supporters to accept the stunning defeat.

"Ding-dong, the witch is dead," shouted another floor trader.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/09/inve...ton/index.html

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

...People convince each other in viral group think that the real media has no clue what they are talking about and they convince themselves that they are all smarter than everyone else.

As it pertains to this election cycle, the media quite clearly had no clue what they were talking about.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

It is the job of journalists in the media to expose lies and fraud, not parrot each sides talking points as if they are political mouthpieces.

Utter failure by for-profit media.

It's also their job to point out the possible benefits and pitfalls of policies and platforms.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Easier to just say nothing at all.

Which probably helps explain some of the polling numbers. There were obviously more than a few Republican voters that did not want to accurately share who they intended to vote for.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by kevman

Which probably helps explain some of the polling numbers. There were obviously more than a few Republican voters that did not want to accurately share who they intended to vote for.

Based on the popular vote numbers many republicans also stayed home rather than vote for either candidate.

[2Stonedbirds]

So what does Ted Cruz do? Disappear as he should or get a new coat that has "#1 ####" on the back?

[HotHotHeat]

Damn effective writing by Glenn Greenwald

Put simply, Democrats knowingly chose to nominate a deeply unpopular, extremely vulnerable, scandal-plagued candidate, who — for very good reason — was widely perceived to be a protector and beneficiary of all the worst components of status quo elite corruption. It’s astonishing that those of us who tried frantically to warn Democrats that nominating Hillary Clinton was a huge and scary gamble, that all empirical evidence showed that she could lose to anyone and that Bernie Sanders would be a much stronger candidate especially in this climate — are now the ones being blamed: by the very same people who insisted on ignoring all that data and nominating her anyway.

But that’s just basic blame-shifting and self-preservation. Far more significant is what this shows about the mentality of the Democratic Party. Just think about who they nominated: someone who — when she wasn’t dining with Saudi monarchs and being feted in Davos by tyrants who gave million-dollar checks — spent the last several years piggishly running around to Wall Street banks and major corporations cashing in with $250,000 fees for 45-minute secret speeches even though she had already become unimaginably rich with book advances while her husband already made tens of millions playing these same games. She did all that without the slightest apparent concern for how that would feed into all the perceptions and resentments of her and the Democratic Party as corrupt, status-quo-protecting, aristocratic tools of the rich and powerful: exactly the worst possible behavior for this post-2008-economic-crisis era of globalism and destroyed industries.

It goes without saying that Trump is a sociopathic con artist obsessed with personal enrichment: the opposite of a genuine warrior for the downtrodden. That’s too obvious to debate. But, just as Obama did so powerfully in 2008, he could credibly run as an enemy of the D.C. and Wall Street system that has steamrolled over so many people, while Hillary Clinton is its loyal guardian, its consummate beneficiary.

Trump vowed to destroy the system that elites love (for good reason) and the masses hate (for equally good reason), while Clinton vowed to more efficiently manage it. That, as Matt Stoller’s indispensable article in the Atlantic three weeks ago documented, is the conniving choice the Democratic Party made decades ago: to abandon populism and become the party of technocratically proficient, mildly benevolent managers of elite power. Those are the cynical, self-interested seeds they planted, and now the crop has sprouted.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Maybe America has this more figured out than I thought. Maybe.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

So what does Ted Cruz do? Disappear as he should or get a new coat that has "#1 ####" on the back?

His window is now closed. So the #### jacket remains.

[polak]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

It's a common left wing theme. Make it socially unacceptable to say who you support. Label them a racist, a bigot, sexist if their views don't agree with yours. Easier to just say nothing at all.

When Trump says no illegal Mexicans in the u.s. The left says he's racist.

The racist label didn't come from wanting to stop illegal immigration. It came from wanting to stop and even kick out muslims.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Damn effective writing by Glenn Greenwald



https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Maybe America has this more figured out than I thought. Maybe.

Amazing article, thanks for posting.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I am looking forward to Melania's anti cyber bullying campaign.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Drak

His window is now closed. So the #### jacket remains.

Excellent. The little weasel will wear it well I'm sure.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I am looking forward to Melania's anti cyber bullying campaign.

I'm more excited for her shop till you drop campaign.

[CaptainCrunch]