PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[photon]

Some good news, looks like the filibuster in the Senate isn't going away anytime soon.

Asked by The Huffington Post about ending the filibuster, he was blunt.

“Are you kidding?” he said with some vehemence. “I’m one of the biggest advocates for the filibuster. It’s the only way to protect the minority, and we’ve been in the minority a lot more than we’ve been in the majority. It’s just a great, great protection for the minority.”

Hatch, the most senior member of the GOP, presides over the Senate every morning as the president pro tempore, making him third in the line of succession to the White House. He’s also chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.

Hatch’s unequivocal support for the filibuster does not guarantee there won’t be changes to it, however.

Asked about reforming the minority party blockade, famous filibusterer Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) responded, “We’ll see.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b099512f806e7b

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

you have to give people a helping hand but then have to let go at some point. or else they will always depend on that hand.

there is an argument to be made that the former can't happen yet. but eventually that staged has to be reached... as was discussed with photon, how do we measure that?

Ultimately you need to be working for the chain link fence..

[kerriffic]

All aboard the Trump train. I'm sure this won't further radicalize Muslims at all....

Donald Trump's team 'discussing plans for Muslim registration system'

"Kris Kobach, the secretary of state for Kansas, said#the President-elect’s#advisers were looking at how to implement a proposal suggested by#the billionaire businessman#that would#force#immigrants#from#Muslim countries to register on a database."

"The Muslim registration scheme, which would reportedly see Muslims given a form of identification that notes their religion,#reflects policies Mr Trump put forward during his campaign to introduce “extreme vetting” of Muslims through tougher security measures."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7420296.html

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

Ultimately you need to be working for the chain link fence..

without supports and accommodation is the key. how do we measure whether the person still needs supports?

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by kerriffic

All aboard the Trump train. I'm sure this won't further radicalize Muslims at all....

Donald Trump's team 'discussing plans for Muslim registration system'

"Kris Kobach, the secretary of state for Kansas, said#the President-elect’s#advisers were looking at how to implement a proposal suggested by#the billionaire businessman#that would#force#immigrants#from#Muslim countries to register on a database."

"The Muslim registration scheme, which would reportedly see Muslims given a form of identification that notes their religion,#reflects policies Mr Trump put forward during his campaign to introduce “extreme vetting” of Muslims through tougher security measures."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7420296.html

While we're quoting unreliable news sources, here's one saying Hillary Clinton was in a rage and threw things on election night: http://www.torontosun.com/2016/11/16...n-night-report

Note in the Sun article: "Sources told the Daily Mail...".

Neither source should be trusted.

Garbage journalism all around.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

without supports and accommodation is the key. how do we measure whether the person still needs supports?

When we aren't living in the white mans world (or insert dominant ethinic male group based upon area of the world)

...it'll be a while...

[KevanGuy]

Originally Posted by kerriffic

All aboard the Trump train. I'm sure this won't further radicalize Muslims at all....

Donald Trump's team 'discussing plans for Muslim registration system'

"Kris Kobach, the secretary of state for Kansas, said#the President-elect’s#advisers were looking at how to implement a proposal suggested by#the billionaire businessman#that would#force#immigrants#from#Muslim countries to register on a database."

"The Muslim registration scheme, which would reportedly see Muslims given a form of identification that notes their religion,#reflects policies Mr Trump put forward during his campaign to introduce “extreme vetting” of Muslims through tougher security measures."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7420296.html

Jesus Christ. How is this real? Is this the 30s? I won't be shocked if there is violence if/when legitimate government resources are used to investigate this policy, let alone implement it.

[kerriffic]

Originally Posted by Delgar

While we're quoting unreliable news sources, here's one saying Hillary Clinton was in a rage and threw things on election night: http://www.torontosun.com/2016/11/16...n-night-report

Note in the Sun article: "Sources told the Daily Mail...".

Neither source should be trusted.

Garbage journalism all around.

Which are you saying shouldn't be trusted? If I google this story it is being carried currently by multiple news agencies. Or are your saying that Kris Kobach the rumored favourite for attorney general in Trump's team and known immigration hardliner shouldn't be trusted??

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by kerriffic

Which are you saying shouldn't be trusted? If I google this story it is being carried currently by multiple news agencies. Or are your saying that Kris Kobach the rumored favourite for attorney general in Trump's team and known immigration hardliner shouldn't be trusted??

You quoted the Independent. Look at their front page.

Garbage journalism.

[KevanGuy]

Originally Posted by Delgar

While we're quoting unreliable news sources, here's one saying Hillary Clinton was in a rage and threw things on election night: http://www.torontosun.com/2016/11/16...n-night-report

Note in the Sun article: "Sources told the Daily Mail...".

Neither source should be trusted.

Garbage journalism all around.

The Independent article said this:

Kris Kobach, the secretary of state for Kansas, said the President-elect’s advisers were looking at how to implement a proposal suggested by the billionaire businessman that would force immigrants from Muslim countries to register on a database.


Seems like a reliable source?

[photon]

Hah I read that late in the election Bubba and Hillary had a yelling match about how she should be handling her campaign, and that at one point he threw his phone off the balcony, on one of those sketchy sites.

I'm sure emotions run pretty high when the stakes are so high so it wouldn't surprise me at all and I wouldn't blame them for some yelling.

AP had the registry story too: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN13B05C

Mentions that there used to be such a thing after 9/11, and I read another article that said such a system for incoming Muslims would probably be constitutional.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

When we aren't living in the white mans world (or insert dominant ethinic male group based upon area of the world)

...it'll be a while...

i think you'd have to have incredible statistics to remove supports, or else it would be deemed as racist. kind of chicken and egg. Is the student doing well because of or in spite of the safety net?

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by KevanGuy

The Independent article said this:

Kris Kobach, the secretary of state for Kansas, said the President-elect’s advisers were looking at how to implement a proposal suggested by the billionaire businessman that would force immigrants from Muslim countries to register on a database.


Seems like a reliable source?

Well, look at Breitbart, they refer to sources all the time and are wrong, and scarily enough their chairman is about to lead the Trump administration, but like the Independent they have a huge political bent.

I wouldn't trust anything from any of the Independent, Breitbart, the Daily Mail, etc., and even still not even if it was picked up by Postmedia. Wait to see if a reputable news organization picks it up, and then, I'd agree its troubling. Until then, don't trust it.

Edit: the reason I used the Toronto Sun article as a counterpoint is that while you might assume the largest english newspaper publisher in Canada can be counted on for the truth, they can't. They quote unreliable sources.

[kerriffic]

Originally Posted by Delgar

You quoted the Independent. Look at their front page.

Garbage journalism.

Ok fair enough here's one from Reuters.

"Kobach helped design the program, known as the National Security Entry-Exit Registration System, while serving in Republican President George W. Bush's Department of Justice after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States by al Qaeda militants.

Under NSEERS, people from countries deemed "higher risk" were required to undergo interrogations and fingerprinting on entering the United States. Some non-citizen male U.S. residents over the age of 16 from countries with active militant threats were required to register in person at government offices and periodically check in.

NSEERS was abandoned in 2011 after it was deemed redundant by the Department of Homeland Security and criticized by civil rights groups for unfairly targeting immigrants from Muslim- majority nations."

https://www.google.ca/amp/mobile.reu...ndroid-oneplus

Really though it shouldn't be a surprise it is something that Trump campaigned on doing, I guess I thought that it was all talk and they wouldn't actually consider doing something so insane.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Delgar

While we're quoting unreliable news sources, here's one saying Hillary Clinton was in a rage and threw things on election night: http://www.torontosun.com/2016/11/16...n-night-report

Note in the Sun article: "Sources told the Daily Mail...".

Neither source should be trusted.

Garbage journalism all around.

Reuters covered it too. Maybe that's a better source? Worse?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN13B05C

I don't know why it would be hard for anyone to believe. This kind of 'program' fits well with what he said over the last year and a half (or however long that circus went on).

[Kjesse]

OK its on Reuters, that's now something. Also has some good detail.

Auschwitz anyone? (only referring to the serial number tattoos, not killing people)

Expect a Trump team denial shortly.

[corporatejay]

Trump surrogates are already citing Japanese internment camps from WW II as "precedent" for Muslim registry

Link to video

https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/799079032499343360

[nik-]

Truth in new stories is overrated tripe. Clickbait and autoplay videos that come to the edge of locking up your browser are the new Walter Kronkite.

[photon]

Lol, someone shouts "Run for president" from the audience at Michelle Obama, she tells him to "be quiet back there".

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeed/status/798261441291845633

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Question...can Trump U or any other lawsuit get him impeached? And if so...why are these not the primary pressure points protestors use?