[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million)

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I don't get the closer to home thing, I just don't. Again, might be a flaw in me. Again, from a wife point of view.

My husband could be making millions in Zimbabwe and it would be fine with me.

Of course you would, because presumably your choice would be him making millions in Zimbabve or little in Calgary.

But what if his choice was making millions in Zimbabwe or millions in Calgary?

[MRCboicgy]

Found Jordan Peterson's CP account then.

[djsFlames]

Anyways let's go back to bashing Gaudreau.

Has he said anything publicly about the Flames?!

[PepsiFree]

I think the good money is on Johnny not being upfront with the organisation.

Just from a logic perspective, Treliving is not going to come out to the media and say that Johnny wants to be here, and Edwards is not going to start making personal calls unless they believe he actually wants to stay. If they wouldn’t believe it, they wouldn’t have done it, because all it does it make them look like rubes now.

Neither Treliving nor Edwards strike me as guys who are going to risk even a little bit of reputation for media management, which is all this song and dance would have been if they didn’t believe he wanted to stay.

It’s also why I don’t believe this was necessarily Treliving’s to wear on his own. Once the owner is involved and you’re both playing from the same playbook, it’s no longer a matter of one guy not doing his job properly. If it’s on the Flames, it’s on both Treliving and Edwards (among others, likely) so I very much doubt Edwards would try to hang Treliving for it.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Anyways let's go back to bashing Gaudreau.

Has he said anything publicly about the Flames?!

The Blue Jackets have a press conference at 11 MST via Zoom where they will introduce him. May get a question from Francis.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Of course you would, because presumably your choice would be him making millions in Zimbabve or little in Calgary.

But what if his choice was making millions in Zimbabwe or millions in Calgary?

I’d take 15M to be in Calgary vs Columbus

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The real deadline was July 2021. It wasn’t a good trade market for a sub-PPG left wing then. And JG was assuring the team and fans he was willing to do a deal. And then acted like it as well.

Incompetence? Nah

I have heard him say he enjoyed it here. When did he provide assurance about willingness to do a deal?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Found Jordan Peterson's CP account then.

JP actually has a wife and kids.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I thought they weren't now.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/...p1a8v24yvggd3v

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

https://sport-net.org/are-nhl-signin...to-escrow/amp/

They are not subject to escrow, that is why players like them.

The Sporting News needs to fire whoever they have fact-checking their NHL information because that is absolutely wrong. They were also still reporting that the "courting period" was still a thing even though that is something that was eliminated in the 2020 MOU.


This is directly from the CBA...

The NHL and NHLPA agree that each Club may, in accordance with Section 50.11 of this Agreement, withhold a certain percentage of each Player's Player Salary and Bonus obligations throughout each League Year and that such funds, if any, shall be held in an Escrow Account, so that in the event that the NHL Clubs spend, on an aggregate basis, more or less on League-wide Player Compensation than the Players' Share in a particular League Year, then pursuant to the Reconciliation and Distribution Procedures, the funds in the Escrow Account shall be distributed to the League or the Players as described herein.

There is nothing in the 2020 MOU that changes how Escrow is collected.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Based on Treliving’s history, I would say he definitely tried to pinch him back in 2021. I don’t necessarily blame him based on Gaudreau’s previous couple of seasons, but it was very obvious to me that Johnny was going to have a break out year in 2022, so I know I would’ve met his demands.

Sadly, only Treliving knows what really went down last year in their negotiations. Could he had Johnny at $9M x 8 prior to the start of the season? I don’t know and we’ll probably never know. If he could’ve, I’m sure he’s probably kicking himself now.

I doubt he could have signed him then. He was being misled.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The Blue Jackets have a press conference at 11 MST via Zoom where they will introduce him. May get a question from Francis.

Hahaha. Oh boy. Francis has to be licking his chops.

Even in Columbus Johnny can't escape him.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Someone with photoshop talents needs to make a Johnny Walker logo in Flames colors & #13 on it

Too hastily done, but about what it deserves. Now, time to enjoy a pleasant day outside and forget about all this.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

signing 32 year old kadri to a massive contract will not be a positive

Agreed, but I don’t think he’s getting a massive contract, or he may have signed yesterday. Honestly I don’t know what the right structure for Kadri would be, but I want him on this team (I did when he nixed the trade for Brodie as well)

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Something that occurs to me as I read Johnny's reasoning and other insiders talk about it after the fact is how deeply, genuinely out of touch management was with what Johnny wanted. It's very clear this player wanted less heat on him and less spotlight. So why the hell was our presentation pivoting on his legacy and making him the greatest calgarian and stuff like that? Seems obvious that would not have worked now. Why weren't they close enough to know that before making the pitch?

Some clubs are terribly out of touch on their pitches. I read that Stamkos got a pitch from the Leafs which was all about endorsements and celebrity and success off the ice and he straight up walked out of there and told his agent no to Toronto.

[PepsiFree]

Johnny Walker is a great nickname.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by dino7c

OMG how are the Oilers better!?

Cambell/Skinner?

They are the same team with worse D and probably worse forward depth.

Well, there was that 7 game series that ended in a gentlemen’s sweep. That’s one.

But yes, re-signing Kane and Kulak and now adding Campbell is huge. Their goaltending was the shakiest part of their team and they’ve improved in that area.

The Flames on the other hand were going to lose depth due to our cap situation. We were going to be in worse shape going into 2022-23.

Realistically, the Flames window to contend was 2018-2022 and we didn’t accomplish enough in that time. The Oilers window appears to be now and they’ll be in good shape cap wise until the end of Draisaitl’s contract.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Coach

All of what you’re saying here is a fine perspective to have on life and success.

It just has nothing to do with anyones gender. Call it courage, or fortitude, or drive or whatever. There are lots of words.

unless he feels women are wired differently.

He's giving me Jordan Peterson vibes here. just my opinion.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Based on Treliving’s history, I would say he definitely tried to pinch him back in 2021. I don’t necessarily blame him based on Gaudreau’s previous couple of seasons, but it was very obvious to me that Johnny was going to have a break out year in 2022, so I know I would’ve met his demands.

Sadly, only Treliving knows what really went down last year in their negotiations. Could he had Johnny at $9M x 8 prior to the start of the season? I don’t know and we’ll probably never know. If he could’ve, I’m sure he’s probably kicking himself now.

Maybe right now but let's see how this contract ages

Gaudreau has had 2 seasons worth 9M+
Playoff stats are meh

He needs to be a 100 point player not ppg. We might be laughing in a few years instead of crying

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Well, there was that 7 game series that ended in a gentlemen’s sweep. That’s one.

But yes, re-signing Kane and Kulak and now adding Campbell is huge. Their goaltending was the shakiest part of their team and they’ve improved in that area.

The Flames on the other hand were going to lose depth due to our cap situation. We were going to be in worse shape going into 2022-23.

Realistically, the Flames window to contend was 2018-2022 and we didn’t accomplish enough in that time. The Oilers window appears to be now and they’ll be in good shape cap wise until the end of Draisaitl’s contract.

Not really. They still have no D and no Kulak isn't Tanev.

I mean they beat the worst team in the playoffs in the Kings, and then we became the next worst team in the playoffs in the 2nd round when they beat us.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Found Jordan Peterson's CP account then.

lol. I just posted roughly the same thing before I saw your post.

Glad I'm not the only one who got that impression.