[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million)

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Pretty much once his inside intelligence about San Jose faded.

He made a lot of great moves beyond the Kipper trade. Up to and including the first year post lockout when he signed Hammer to a great UFA contract and made great trades for Langkow and Huselius.

The Leclerc deal signaled the turn towards disaster IMO.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Give me first two years or so of Sutter the GM. What an incredible run. Then yeah, it just went all to hell.

I don’t know, I’d say from 03-08 he had a really solid run. Drafting was a disaster, as well as his head coaching decision werent great. But his FA signings and trades were pretty top notch up until that point. Those 08 and 09 teams seemed like they could have caused some real damage.

Choosing Jokinen over Cammy and Dion blowing up the locker room were the two things that sunk that team. I don’t know why the Phaneuf trade went in that direction, but that was essentially when he lost the rudder.

[Stuntman Mike]

I personally would love to see a total silent treatment, I think it would be amazing.

Announcer - Johnny Gaudreau

Dome Crowd - .....crickets.....

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The Lydman deal always bothered me. There are more disastrous ones to be sure. But that one made no sense. Pretty much given away (for a 3rd used to pick John Armstrong), and he went on to be a top 4 dman for many years.

An example of why Sutter should not be allowed anywhere near the GM chair.

He did the same thing with Anton Stralman. Traded him for a 3rd round pick (Max Reinhart) that never played for the organization. The guy went on to play almost 1000 games and probably would have looked pretty good in a Flames jersey.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He did the same thing with Anton Stralman. Traded him for a 3rd round pick (Max Reinhart) that never played for the organization. The guy went on to play almost 1000 games and probably would have looked pretty good in a Flames jersey.

That’s not really fair. No one at the time thought Stralman was a guarantee to be an NHL regular let alone a top 2 defenseman.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Cole436

That’s not really fair. No one at the time thought Stralman was a guarantee to be an NHL regular let alone a top 2 defenseman.

Disagree. Stralman had really high potential. Was overhyped as a prospect as a Leaf of course, but the talent was clear.
When the Flames acquired him I thought it was a steal and then was totally puzzled when they dumped him for nothing.

Love Sutter as a coach, but as a talent evaluator I think he's somewhat narrow minded. You see it in the drafting, in the trades and in the players he moved out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Disagree. Stralman had really high potential. Was overhyped as a prospect as a Leaf of course, but the talent was clear.
When the Flames acquired him I thought it was a steal and then was totally puzzled when they dumped him for nothing.

Love Sutter as a coach, but as a talent evaluator I think he's somewhat narrow minded. You see it in the drafting, in the trades and in the players he moved out.

Agreed.

Sutter was a really bad GM. The Starlman move is still baffling he looked great in preseason and was tossed away for a 3rd rounder. Starlman put up 34 points that season. While we had greats like Adam Pardy on the team.

[dino7c]

speaking of ex players I watched some "highlights" of the Panthers game last night...not gonna lie I got a chuckle from the comments

"Is Tkachuk hurt? it looked like he was having a hard time skating out there"

oh sweet summer child

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The Lydman deal always bothered me. There are more disastrous ones to be sure. But that one made no sense. Pretty much given away (for a 3rd used to pick John Armstrong), and he went on to be a top 4 dman for many years.

An example of why Sutter should not be allowed anywhere near the GM chair.

I think Lydman out was necessary to bring Hamrlik in. So it was basically a free 3rd.

Lydman had 1 yr remaining (no idea AAV) while Hamrlik signed 2x3.5. Maybe having Lydman on his next contract (4x.2.875) would've been better than Hammer, but something else would've had to give

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

I’ll be booing the S$&@ out of him for the rest of his career. Why? Because he’s dead to me now. Everyone knew all along he heart was never truly in Calgary. He just made a production of it all.

No, I mean, when I say I love Gaudreau, it's the Flames Gaudreau. Now that he's not with the Flames, I couldn't care less what he does as a player. I mean, obviously I want to beat them, but as a city, the fans, the organization, the way the Flames treated him, I would hope he loved it there and it was a great place to play for nine years. One he left, I did t really care anymore about Gaudreau, obviously. I was more focussed on the Flames and what their team was going to do. They got better, they got worse (in Columbus), I'm not really sure... But I'm focused on our team and we'll go from there

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[Locke]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

God can this thread just die.

Is there a man in your home with a gun to your head ordering you to click?

Exert some Free Will.

'Fans' are not some ordered homogenous group. Some will boo, some will cheer, some wont care one way or the other.

Choose your path.

Personally I think fans who show up can do what they want and I dont care so long as the Flames collect 2 points.

[Always Earned Never Given]

Originally Posted by dino7c

speaking of ex players I watched some "highlights" of the Panthers game last night...not gonna lie I got a chuckle from the comments

"Is Tkachuk hurt? it looked like he was having a hard time skating out there"

oh sweet summer child

Yup his ego after throwing that first pitch at the Marlins' game the other day.

[Fischy13]

Originally Posted by Always Earned Never Given

Yup his ego after throwing that first pitch at the Marlins' game the other day.

Blows my mind a professional athlete can't throw a ball. I remember years ago, Brent Sutter commenting on hockey players these days can't throw a ball, swing a bat, shoot a hoop because they played hockey 365 days a year. He went on about how important it was for their hockey skills to play other sports and develop different muscles that made them better hockey players. I've kept an eye on this since reading that article and am dumfounded every time I see it happening. Wild.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

speaking of ex players I watched some "highlights" of the Panthers game last night...not gonna lie I got a chuckle from the comments

"Is Tkachuk hurt? it looked like he was having a hard time skating out there"

oh sweet summer child

LOL

He's listed as day to day with being overrated.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I think Lydman out was necessary to bring Hamrlik in. So it was basically a free 3rd.

Lydman had 1 yr remaining (no idea AAV) while Hamrlik signed 2x3.5. Maybe having Lydman on his next contract (4x.2.875) would've been better than Hammer, but something else would've had to give

Phaneuf was also coming in. Lydman would turn into a solid Top 4 defenseman but Hamrlik at the time was an upgrade when the Flames already had Regehr-Leopold and Warrener-Ference as established pairs. I think even without the trade Lydman doesn't develop into the same defenseman getting lost in all that.



All got turned upside down the next season anyway with Leopold and Ference bein traded away, but that's a big reason how Giordano got his start.

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by Stuntman Mike

I personally would love to see a total silent treatment, I think it would be amazing.

Announcer - Johnny Gaudreau

Dome Crowd - .....crickets.....

That makes more sense to me. Don’t feed him with boos or cheers, flood hilm with the most awkward silence, imaginable.


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[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by dino7c

speaking of ex players I watched some "highlights" of the Panthers game last night...not gonna lie I got a chuckle from the comments

"Is Tkachuk hurt? it looked like he was having a hard time skating out there"

oh sweet summer child

L o l he might just coast his way through this one.

And by coast I mean like a volts wagon with a flat tire


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[jayswin]

Yeah, but that simply isn't happening. Zero chance.

edit: in reference to two posts up about going with silence for Gaudreau.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Stuntman Mike

I personally would love to see a total silent treatment, I think it would be amazing.

Announcer - Johnny Gaudreau

Dome Crowd - .....crickets.....

Or the Braveheart treatment!

NSFW!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by dino7c

speaking of ex players I watched some "highlights" of the Panthers game last night...not gonna lie I got a chuckle from the comments

"Is Tkachuk hurt? it looked like he was having a hard time skating out there"

oh sweet summer child

Oh are they in for a treat.

Chucky is great at a lot of things, ironically skating is not among them.