[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million)

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by redforever

I don't think Edmonton fans booed Gretzky after he left under similar circumstances. I think Calgary fans can be at least as good as Edmonton fans in this scenario.

He was traded...how is it similar at all

Gaudreau is getting booed big time...some of you need to brace yourselves

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The GM who is extremely professional measured when he speaks said one said negotiated in good faith

Really dude it's an odd hill for a Flames fan to die on... Gaudreau used the Flames as leverage and had no intention of signing. There is more than enough evidence out there.

Yes, a UFA has leverage, that's not some big revelation. That was obvious all season, everyone knew that would be the case if they didn't extend or trade him before that, so did the Flames. You keep talking about leverage like it was this crazy thing that should never have happened -- that's literally what free agency is, using your position of leverage to get the best deal you can on the market. So essentially you're mad at Gaudreau for having been a UFA.

[BlindMilwaukee]

Originally Posted by redforever

I don't think Edmonton fans booed Gretzky after he left under similar circumstances. I think Calgary fans can be at least as good as Edmonton fans in this scenario.

While I personally wouldn't boo Johnny he is absolutely gonna get booed in his return.

I'm as sure of that as I am that Monahan gets a standing ovation in his return to Calgary.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by heep223

General public is even more butthurt than CP, in my opinion. Casual fans know that Gaudreau chose voluntarily to leave and to a completely random #### team that’s not even close to his hometown. IMO they don’t care about the nuance of it like CP does.

Johnny’s going to get absolutely roasted.

I agree with this take. Everyone I know who is a casual fan is way more pissed about it than people on this board.

Taking it all at face value Johnny left the team that drafted and developed him leaving $15.75M of cash on the table to sign with a team that won a single round of playoff hockey in their existence and is still a flight away from the city where he and his wives family lives.

He left a winning situation, money, and legacy on the table. He was incredibly unprepared for the press conference the next day when he made his comments about new dining a change that again made him look bad. He then waited too long to do his article in the players tribune so he did not change the minds of many with that article. The guy is certainly going to be booed in Calgary on January 23rd. I think he will get a small applause for his tribute video but will hear the hate every time he touches the puck.

[dino7c]

The point is he had no intention of staying with the Flames at that point and continued to waste their time in negotiations...to increase his leverage when seeking a contract. If you guys don't think his agent was talking to other teams at that point I don't know what to tell you

[Paulie Walnuts]

To me the signs seem pretty clear even his former teammates have come out and said they felt he was going to leave. In his article he even said he started thinking about playing closer to home in 2018. The GM of the Flames looked pissed and let it slip that one side negotiated in good faith. It seems pretty clear he had no intention of signing here and that's his right. Almost seems to be he made an offer to the team with the mindset we would walk at the asking price, and he would have a easy out instead we accepted and he panicked.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by redforever

I don't think Edmonton fans booed Gretzky after he left under similar circumstances. I think Calgary fans can be at least as good as Edmonton fans in this scenario.

Let’s not compare Johnny who led this team to 2 playoff series victories to a guy who lead a team to a 4 cup dynasty.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Let’s not compare Johnny who led this team to 2 playoff series victories to a guy who lead a team to a 4 cup dynasty.

And was traded...he didn't choose to leave town to go to a bad team for less money

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The GM who is extremely professional measured when he speaks said one said negotiated in good faith

Really dude it's an odd hill for a Flames fan to die on... Gaudreau used the Flames as leverage and had no intention of signing. There is more than enough evidence out there.

Yes, hearsay and conjecture are kinds of evidence - Lionel Hutz


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[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He was traded...how is it similar at all

Gaudreau is getting booed big time...some of you need to brace yourselves

I hope most fans can be classy when he returns but if you want to be that fan then have at it. He was the best thing to happen to this franchise after Iginla left and we were lucky to have him in Calgary for nine seasons. If you want to boo him for putting family first then go be that guy.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I hope most fans can be classy when he returns but if you want to be that fan then have at it. He was the best thing to happen to this franchise after Iginla left and we were lucky to have him in Calgary for nine seasons. If you want to boo him for putting family first then go be that guy.

The loser didn't though. He moved to Columbus! not Jersey or Philly. It was too close to family!

Boo him and burn his god damn jersey.

The only good thing out of this is that Lewis Gross will never get another client.

[tvp2003]

I find the numerous theories around what happened with Gaudreau -- based mostly on speculation -- are interesting because people seem so sure of themselves:

- He always wanted to go back to the US
- He waited until the last possible minute just to drive his value up
- He screwed himself by going to free agency and giving up $15.75M by not signing here
- He had to settle on Columbus only because Philly didn't make an offer

So which is it? He was always going to get less money by going to UFA and signing a seven year deal, so it seems silly to suggest he's dumb for leaving money on the table if in fact he wanted to play in the US all along. Meanwhile, if he was such a mastermind to negotiate with the Flames all the way to the 11th hour just to try and create a bidding war as a UFA, wouldn't he at least know which teams would be interested (and that Philly wasn't one of them)?

I know what I think is the most likely possibility, but I doubt anyone really knows other than Gaudreau's camp and Treliving.

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

The loser didn't though. He moved to Columbus! not Jersey or Philly. It was too close to family!

Boo him and burn his god damn jersey.

The only good thing out of this is that Lewis Gross will never get another client.

good lord.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

The loser didn't though. He moved to Columbus! not Jersey or Philly. It was too close to family!

Boo him and burn his god damn jersey.

The only good thing out of this is that Lewis Gross will never get another client.

Thank you for defining the low road so clearly. What garbage.

[Ashes]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I hope most fans can be classy when he returns but if you want to be that fan then have at it. He was the best thing to happen to this franchise after Iginla left and we were lucky to have him in Calgary for nine seasons. If you want to boo him for putting family first then go be that guy.

So, in January when the dome is full with people who have Gaudreau stitched on the back, are those people not allowed to boo him either? That would be really rude after all, right? We can't have that.. how embarrassing for fans to show some emotion after they spent their money to put his name on their jersey and after 9 seasons he walks with no regard for how that would handcuff the team.. they have no right!

Take a look at other sports around the world and how they welcome back players who didn't put the team/club first. This is what it's all about - passion for your team. Boo him if you want, or cheer for him if you want, it's entirely up to you, but it doesn't make someone "petty" or "toxic" to boo the guy. (also this isn't aimed at you, but other's who have said its petty or toxic to boo Gaudreau).

For me, I loved when Tavares went back to the Island and heard it from the fans all night, it became must watch tv.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

I find the numerous theories around what happened with Gaudreau -- based mostly on speculation -- are interesting because people seem so sure of themselves:

- He always wanted to go back to the US
- He waited until the last possible minute just to drive his value up
- He screwed himself by going to free agency and giving up $15.75M by not signing here
- He had to settle on Columbus only because Philly didn't make an offer

So which is it? He was always going to get less money by going to UFA and signing a seven year deal, so it seems silly to suggest he's dumb for leaving money on the table if in fact he wanted to play in the US all along. Meanwhile, if he was such a mastermind to negotiate with the Flames all the way to the 11th hour just to try and create a bidding war as a UFA, wouldn't he at least know which teams would be interested (and that Philly wasn't one of them)?

I know what I think is the most likely possibility, but I doubt anyone really knows other than Gaudreau's camp and Treliving.

I think the other possibility is he was wishy washy and just couldn't decide (or at least communicate a decision) and even after he made his final demand (which was met) he wavered and then finally was forced to decide. I do think he was surprised by the fact he wasn't snapped up in hours and didn't want to wait around any more by the time Columbus made their offer.

[Stormchaser]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

To me the signs seem pretty clear even his former teammates have come out and said they felt he was going to leave. In his article he even said he started thinking about playing closer to home in 2018. The GM of the Flames looked pissed and let it slip that one side negotiated in good faith. It seems pretty clear he had no intention of signing here and that's his right. Almost seems to be he made an offer to the team with the mindset we would walk at the asking price, and he would have a easy out instead we accepted and he panicked.

That's how I see it as well.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Yes, hearsay and conjecture are kinds of evidence - Lionel Hutz


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When the GM says he doesn't feel he negotiated in good faith I believe him

What's your evidence? You are a fan of him? Everything that has come out suggests he never really wanted to return.

GM comments
Former team mates comments
The eventual contract he signed an who he signed with
His ridiculous interviews since

[rohara66]

Johnny is getting booed endlessly when he returns... no doubt.

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gaudreau is getting booed big time...some of you need to brace yourselves

This.



Heck, people cheering for his 'CGY thank you video' will also get booed big time haha

[dino7c]

Should we not boo Fox because he wanted to play on the old man's team? Again I'm not suggesting slurs or attacking his family. But he left really poorly...anyone who wants to boo is justified.