[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million)

[Flamesfan05]

Still can’t believe what Johnny did

[Vinny01]

I haven’t been able to keep up with this thread. Which post # is this rumor being referenced?

[442scotty]

I think that Gaudreau tried to make everyone happy which usually ends with no one really happy. I don’t think he’s happy that he’s in Columbus. I think he’s going to try and make the best of it. Happy wife happy life? Not necessarily.

I think he’s a nice guy that screwed himself over

[Mr.Coffee]

Everyone is focused on travel itineraries and distances and such to his home to be closer to family.

It’s not about him being closer to HIS family (well, I’m sure it is but to a much lesser degree).

It’s about being closer to her family, and by the sounds of those rumours, they are exactly closer to her family. That’s why Columbus was on the list. And it makes sense for a woman who’s about to have a baby, to be closer to her parents / family for help. So, they are closer to family.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I predict he does this all over again too. He’s in Ohio telling the fans that he picked Columbus and they’re all losing their minds over it. When it’s likely that all his other options collapsed because they were playing games. I bet he doesn’t even finish his contract there.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Everyone is focused on travel itineraries and distances and such to his home to be closer to family.

It’s not about him being closer to HIS family (well, I’m sure it is but to a much lesser degree).

It’s about being closer to her family, and by the sounds of those rumours, they are exactly closer to her family. That’s why Columbus was on the list. And it makes sense for a woman who’s about to have a baby, to be closer to her parents / family for help. So, they are closer to family.

I dunno.

Seems like it is about 'anywhere but Calgary' to me the more this goes on.

Do these players not get PR training? Because Johnny looks like a complete moron here.

Giroux signed in Ottawa and cited his family and where he comes from as a big reason, and he came across as a sincere human being.

Johnny comes across as a jackass who had a vendetta against the team that drafted and built him into the player he is. A complete loser.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I predict he does this all over again too. He’s in Ohio telling the fans that he picked Columbus and they’re all losing their minds over it. When it’s likely that all his other options collapsed because they were playing games. I bet he doesn’t even finish his contract there.

I would bet money that you are indeed correct.

No way he doesn't turn around and give the middle finger to Columbus at some point as well.

[jg13]

Originally Posted by vinny01

i haven’t been able to keep up with this thread. Which post # is this rumor being referenced?

#2018

[Azure]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

End of the day he didn't stand up for himself and he knows it. Its fine to throw in the towel on Calgary if AHS was that bad of an experience for her, but to then not land on a team around your home turf and have to give that up too for Columbus, just because it was approval worthy? At least find a compromise there. It's his life though, but that's undoubtedly going to suck later.

When CBJ inevitably sucks from a hockey perspective for most of the duration of it he's not going to be a very satisfied guy with his hockey decisions. Hopefully the family stuff works out for him well. Columbus seems like Calgary used to be. Probably a good environment. But.... he done goofed on the hockey side of things.

Man, just what a ####y way to conclude the relationship between player and team that was entirely preventable even if he didn't land here.

The Flames even gave him his alleged terms. It's just negotiating in bad faith. Pulled the rug out from under the team. Even if he didn't mean to, he did. Clarity with his wife and then subsequent clarity with the team would've saved all of the lingering bad taste and burnt bridges.

Without question, Johnny didn't step up here and communicate and he doesn't have any one else to blame. This is why communication is essential.

Also, more is expected from a guy in his position. That is why he has agent representation, and also why players have fired agents before for screwing things up.

Every year players uproot their entire family structure to move across the country to play with another team. I have NEVER heard of anyone that turns it into such a drama fest like Johnny has.

If he would have been honest about the situation, honest to the team, honest to the other teams that were inquiring, and STILL would have made the decision to go to Columbus because of 'reasons', it would be completely fine.

What a mess.

[Heavy Jack]

Lol so much for one player isn’t the whole team

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547927071032111104

My favourite comment was:

@johngaudreau03
“I came here to win games”.
Good luck getting past the Penguins,Capitals,rangers and the Canes.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I totally agree. People need to relax a little bit about the betrayal stuff. Even if he gave more notice, I am sure some people would have still acted out. Some people would have been mad no matter what.

And you're right. This is 100% on management. Even a lot of fans could see he had one foot out the door for a while. Management either couldn't see it, or they thought they could change it. There were many warning signs that he was looking past the Flames one day, and obviously that day was going to be when his contract was up. Johnny played out his contract to the best of his abilities and never complained. That is all you can really ask. Yeah, I don't like how the final negotiations went, but Brad should have pulled the plug way before. Trying to convince a player to stay whose heart wasn't in it, likely just prolonged the process longer than it needed to be.

Treliving should have sat down with Johnny at the beginning of the season when his camp said they weren't interested in extending yet, and asked him to be totally honest. I don't know, maybe he did. I just doubt it because he seemed happy to ignore so many warning signs, he probably didn't want to face the big question.

My take is that Gaudreau was leaving no matter what and Brad made it harder than it needed to be for him to make that decision. It's like trying to break off a relationship and the other person is crying, and saying I can't live with out you, so you put off the break up until later. It's not the best thing to do, but it's hard not to when you actually do care about the person. I suspect the psychological aspect is the negotiations for the past few weeks was similar.

Not sure I agree.

I do not believe for one second that the Flames didn't have serious discussions with Johnny as time went on about his future, especially at the end of the season.

No bloody way the team goes down to the last hour with the expectation that he signs here without Johnny's camp leading them on.

I agree that he had ZERO intention of signing here, did it to spite the team, hates Calgary, but did all that in a way to make sure he screws over the Flames as much as possible.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Azure

I agree that he had ZERO intention of signing here, did it to spite the team, hates Calgary, but did all that in a way to make sure he screws over the Flames as much as possible.

[PeteMoss]

I will say - in the its not about the money aspect - Gaudreau staying in college for another year to play with his brother - probably cost him millions of dollars at the end of it all as well.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I keep coming back to when I moved across the country. I told my current employer my plan about a year in advance because they were investing heavily in me to take on a major role. I told him I’d be looking for something else that will allow me to transfer when I eventually move. Because I’m going to move. I’m a complete nobody.

I don’t know how you flick that part of your soul off to make a few extra dollars. It blows my mind.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I predict he does this all over again too. He’s in Ohio telling the fans that he picked Columbus and they’re all losing their minds over it. When it’s likely that all his other options collapsed because they were playing games. I bet he doesn’t even finish his contract there.

my guess is after three underwhelming seasons of around 75 point and one playoff series where he once again is invisible that he asks for a trade and columbus is more than happy to oblige him

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I keep coming back to when I moved across the country. I told my current employer my plan about a year in advance because they were investing heavily in me to take on a major role. I told him I’d be looking for something else that will allow me to transfer when I eventually move. Because I’m going to move. I’m a complete nobody.

I don’t know how you flick that part of your soul off to lose a few extra dollars. It blows my mind.

FYP.

Its plain to see now that indeed this thing was never about $$$, or at least it was not the prime motivation.

No, this was all about getting the hell out of dodge. Which he absolutely earned the right to do. He really did not earn the right to do it the way he did it however. He doesn't owe the team any loyalty or whatnot, but he at least could have done the honorable thing and been transparent with the club.

Johnny has no honor. None.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I haven’t been able to keep up with this thread. Which post # is this rumor being referenced?

this rumour in post 2018 is interesting as wasn't new jersey in talks with Team Gaudreau and then they were met with radio silence?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by transplant99

FYP.

Its plain to see now that indeed this thing was never about $$$, or at least it was not the prime motivation.

No, this was all about getting the hell out of dodge. Which he absolutely earned the right to do. He really did not earn the right to do it the way he did it however. He doesn't owe the team any loyalty or whatnot, but he at least could have done the honorable thing and been transparent with the club.

Johnny has no honor. None.

People want to say its all about winning & the deal, and those guys that are ruthless and don't get emotionally attached to teams & players are the ones that are more successful, but I disagree.

This is a team sport, and the reputation of both the player & the team are extremely important. At the end of the day you want players that are good teammates & loyal to the culture you are trying to build.

Yes, they have their rights, but to think that you still shouldn't be honest & transparent about what you want to do is dumb.

I have yet to read a post that explained why what Johnny did here wasn't a stupid decision and tarnished his reputation. Hard to see a scenario here where this doesn't happen again. A guy that has no problem pulling something like this on a team that helped him build his career with almost certainly have no problem doing it to ANY other team.

[Playfair]

[AC]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Not following. Edmonton fans and media have run numerous players out of town over the years.
Yoo are either golden or you are garbage. Sometimes that changes quickly.
I do not recall this happening in Calgary

Yup, that was my thinking as well. They creepily worship you, until they turn on you and the team. Both the fans and media.

Hall and Eberle, Pronger, jersey tossing, Puljujarvi being set up as another sacrifice now, even the media member that called Draisaitl pissy this year. Even Francis wouldn't stoop to that level.

Our media is very friendly and pleasant compared to the other Canadian teams.