Hockey Canada, CHL settle lawsuit over alleged sexual assault involving WJ players

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Police investigation re-opened. https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/...of-police.aspx

Some puckering going on right now, I bet.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

There's a lot of stories now coming out from victims talking about how other players in the Canadian organization did terrible things. I don't think it's a stretch to say that there's a really terrible accountability problem within hockey culture, it seems young Canadian hockey athletes can get away with murder. It's really embarrassing. I had no idea the sport was this incredibly toxic

Have you never met anyone who played "elite" hockey before? they're usually a bunch of #######s.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I wonder if they talked about 2003 because it was paid out from the same fund, which is now going to be under scrutiny. Getting ahead of the story.

They are alleging they found out about it yesterday outside of rumours, no?

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Police investigation re-opened. https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/...of-police.aspx

I expect we’ll see Dube’s agent rescind his past statement of all players being cleared of wrong doing any second now. Definitely hold your breath.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I wonder if they talked about 2003 because it was paid out from the same fund, which is now going to be under scrutiny. Getting ahead of the story.

They talk about learning of it in the last week or so I think. As much as believe their PR is terrible, it would be an incredible gaff to come out and say you just learned of something to get ahead of a story suggesting you’ve known about it for 20 years.

[bigpete]

The truth is that probably a lot of the players we idolize and cheer for are (or were) absolute scumbags.

Elite athletes growing up are so used to being told that they are better than everyone else that it's really no surprise that many of them become bullies and abusers.

My kids are young and in hockey and all I want for them is to love the game and have fun with their friends doing it. It makes me sick hearing all these stories about sexual abuse, bullying, hazing, etc.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1550554302392967170

[getbak]

Originally Posted by chedder

Brad Pascall was with Hockey Canada from 1996 to 2014. Wonder what secrets he has?

I thought he primarily worked with the Women's team when he was with Hockey Canada (which is how he met Cassie), but I could be wrong.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

They talk about learning of it in the last week or so I think. As much as believe their PR is terrible, it would be an incredible gaff to come out and say you just learned of something to get ahead of a story suggesting you’ve known about it for 20 years.

I wouldn’t necessarily expect present management to know about a 2003 thing but yeah.

Gaffe

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Police investigation re-opened. https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/...of-police.aspx

Well that is good news that they are taking a close look at this.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by getbak

I thought he primarily worked with the Women's team when he was with Hockey Canada (which is how he met Cassie), but I could be wrong.

From hockey Canada bio:

Pascall was a key member of
numerous successful Canadian
teams during his tenure, including
five consecutive gold medals at the
IIHF World Junior Championship
(2005-09), three Olympic gold
medals (2002, 2010, 2014), the 2004
World Cup of Hockey and two IIHF
World Championship gold medals
(2003, 2004).

Not hard to think he was involved with the juniors before the gold medal run.

https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/ne...2003%2C%202004).

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1550554302392967170

Cancelling the world juniors because they may not make money at it would be one of the more transparent things that has been done in awhile by those who usually make millions off the tournament .

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Have you never met anyone who played "elite" hockey before? they're usually a bunch of #######s.

Maybe that's why. I haven't had any real connection to hockey in person. Just football.

[flames_fan_down_under]

There are very decent people who I have met who played elite hockey. Guys who have had a cup of coffee in the show, WHL guys, UBC hockey etc. I have however also interacted with several guys who played elite hockey who are complete scumbags that are almost singularly focussed on "notching up" at all times. There is nothing wrong with having a lot of consensual sex with women, but the way these guys were just gave me the wrong feeling. Hard to really say other than to say they just acted like complete scumbags at all times.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by chedder

From hockey Canada bio:

Pascall was a key member of
numerous successful Canadian
teams during his tenure, including
five consecutive gold medals at the
IIHF World Junior Championship
(2005-09), three Olympic gold
medals (2002, 2010, 2014), the 2004
World Cup of Hockey and two IIHF
World Championship gold medals
(2003, 2004).

Not hard to think he was involved with the juniors before the gold medal run.

https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/ne...2003%2C%202004).

Yeah, I guess I was way off thinking he only worked with the women's team.

His Hockey Canada bio says he was senior director of communications from 1998 to 2008, handling communications and media relations for both the men's and women's teams, including the U20 team: https://stats.hockeycanada.ca/roster_players/4208795

[browna]

Originally Posted by chedder

Brad Pascall was with Hockey Canada from 1996 to 2014. Wonder what secrets he has?

Yup.
There's a lot of rabbit holes you could go down with former HC people, and I think it's a presumptuous, even with Nicholson, to be going on witch hunts for anyone who may have know or the greyer area of "should've known".

[Gaudfather]

HEIMPEL: Hockey Canada must act — or be no more

It has been called an “extinction-level” event for Hockey Canada.

The Sun ‘s own Steve Simmons suggested in a recent column that it was time to “collapse” Hockey Canada. So badly has Hockey Canada managed the current scandals before it, that it is now drawing comparisons to the Catholic Church. The recent revelation of a long-time secret fund to pay damages to victims assaulted by players suggests that it has both known it has a problem for a long time, and decided that it’s only a problem if other people know about it. And, by the way, the rest of hockey should not pretend this is isolated to Hockey Canada. One need only look at the Chicago Blackhawks.

Hockey Canada needs to set an example. The eight players implicated in the 2018 incident, and players subsequently implicated in any other assaults, have to publicly be made permanently ineligible to participate in anything funded by, organized by, or affiliated with, Hockey Canada. It doesn’t matter what accolades they may receive, or have received in their NHL careers — if the NHL allows them to continue. They can never play or coach or manage for Team Canada ever again.

Mitch Heimpel is the Director of Campaigns and Government Relations at Enterprise Canada

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl...9bef1a88cb6cc6

[sureLoss]

Hockey Canada announces new action plan to address systemic issues:

https://hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/corpor...ut/action-plan

Among the plans key points:

Adopting the Universal Code of Conduct to Prevent and Address Maltreatment in Sport 6.0.

Implementing a tracking and reporting system for complaints of abuse and harassment. Results to be published annually.

Character screenings for high performance players.

Breaching the code or failure to participate in investigations will result in a lifetime ban from Hockey Canada

[Coach]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Hockey Canada announces new action plan to address systemic issues:

https://hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/corpor...ut/action-plan

Among the plans key points:

Adopting the Universal Code of Conduct to Prevent and Address Maltreatment in Sport 6.0.

Implementing a tracking and reporting system for complaints of abuse and harassment. Results to be published annually.

Character screenings for high performance players.

Breaching the code or failure to participate in investigations will result in a lifetime ban from Hockey Canada

Did Hockey Canada clean house at the top yet? Not down with new rules brought in by the same people who couldn’t figure out how to deal with this properly in the first place. I haven’t heard of anyone being fired or anything so…

[getbak]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1551646882014822403

[Boreal]

Hockey Canada has always been a joke & will always be a joke so long as they focus on top down high level teams.

If they would properly implement and fund bottom up coaching mentorship, skills training, and mental health/resilience/skills training the top level teams would take care of itself.

Additionally, a healthy positive sporting environment enables lifelong skills that are transferable outside of sport for ALL elite & non-elite athletes. This should be the goal.

Instead we get too many experts without expertise at all levels.

There are too many coaches who think their own traditional approach or stagnated understanding of the game is the right or only one rather than what has been tested, researched, and validated with evidence.