Madmardeigan!!! Willow rules, that three headed monster at the end gave me nightmares for years.. I saw it recently, definately wasnt as realistic looking as i remembered...
I thought transformers was pretty good.. They didnt exactly hack up the franchise like most adaptations from cartoons..
Oh ya and the Hobbit would be a prequel not a 4th LOTR. I think its the most entertaining of all of JRT's books. Smaug the dragon should be pretty sweet..
* MGM and New Line will co-finance and co-distribute two films, “The Hobbit” and a sequel to “The Hobbit.” New Line will distribute in North America and MGM will distribute internationally.
* Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh will serve as Executive Producers of two films based on “The Hobbit.” New Line will manage the production of the films, which will be shot simultaneously.
Unless they're going to split The Hobbit into two films, I dunno what the sequel would be about.
I am very excited about this film, I am a huge LOTR fan like most people are. Should be pretty interesting, I wonder if they will bother getting Orlando back for a cameo or just skip over that part.
I remember speaking to the tour guide at Hobbiton in NZ earlier this year, regarding the Hobbit. There was a huge falling out between Peter Jackson and the production company regarding 'The Hobbit', and it's a coup for Jackson to even be returning to this movie.
Funny, the guide (who was in the know, had been on set and everything during LOTR filming) told me the story of the Jackson / Hobbit for 45 mins... and all I remember was the story being really intruiging. i don't actually remember the story itself.
Right my bad, it is his father Thranduil. For some reason I was thinking Prince and not King. I haven't read the book in a while.
Originally they wanted to do a three part trilogy that would involve the war of the ring in the first two, and tie into the Hobbit for the third. This was before the original falling out between the studio and Jackson. I guess they settled on two movies, ah well two is better than one which is better than none!
I imagine it will follow a similar style to LOTR, the way the footage was set up and digitally enhanced. But I predict Peter Jackson ends up directing this, not many people could fill his shoes and do as good a job as was done in LOTR.
I am interested to hear what this sequel will entail. I would almost rather they just split the Hobbit into two movies instead of making a sequel, then they would have to cut out so much less.
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It'll be tricky to have 13 dwarves as main characters in this movie. One in LoTR was good, but a whole whack of them, they'd be hard to tell apart. Great though to hear Jackson is involved after the falling out they had.
MGM’s original idea seems to have been to make The Hobbit in two parts. That would make sense. Of course, Tolkien’s first novel is shorter than Rings, but a lot had to be left out of the trilogy in the adaptation. The Hobbit breaks into two almost equal halves, with the break coming where Gandalf leaves Bilbo and the Dwarves at the edge of Mirkwood. Making two three-hour parts would allow the filmmakers to adapt the book without eliminating much of anything. Despite its quest/journey structure, The Hobbit is actually quite carefully structured, and there are no incidents that can simply be eliminated as easily as, say, the Tom Bombadil portion of Rings.
Still, the announcement is for a one-film adaptation and a sequel that takes place before the action of Rings. That’s a gap of sixty years, years about which Tolkien left only the sketchiest of indications. Such events as we know of come primarily from mentions in Appendices A and B and in exposition given by Gandalf in the “Shadow of the Past” chapter in Rings and by various characters at the Council of Elrond.
So who might end up directing? The 24 December-6 January 2008 print edition of Variety ran a brief statement in its “In the News” section (p. 2), noting the settlement of the lawsuit and declaring, “Helmer Sam Raimi will direct, and Jackson will produce.”
Pre-production is to begin “as soon as possible. Principal photography is tentatively set for a 2009 start, with the intention of ‘The Hobbit’ release slated for 2010 and its sequel the following year, in 2011
The White Council meets to discuss The Necromancer (aka Sauron)
The White Council (including Saruman and Gandalf) attack The Necromancer’s stronghold at Dol Guldur. This is to prevent Sauron from searching the river for the Ring. Sauron abandons Dol Guldur and takes up residence in Mordor.
Gollum leaves the mountain, searching for the “thief” Baggins.
Sauron declared himself openly, starting to gather power to Mordor.
So who might end up directing? The 24 December-6 January 2008 print edition of Variety ran a brief statement in its “In the News” section (p. 2), noting the settlement of the lawsuit and declaring, “Helmer Sam Raimi will direct, and Jackson will produce.”
Not Sam Raimi...
How this guy still manages to find work never ceases to amaze me. What has he done that was so good?
Spiderman = Pretty Good
Spiderman 2 = Tolerable
Spiderman 3 = Arguably the worst film I have seen in the lst 5 years.
The Bruce Campbell cameos were kind of nostalgic, but they got tiresome fast. And these were so slam dunk they couldnt not make money.
Evil Dead = Decent/Tolerable
Evil Dead 2 = A Joke.
Army of Darkness = Hilarious, but a shame to films everywhere.
Look at his Director credentials. They're horrible.
I read somewhere that Sam Raimi is dumping the Spiderman franchise for "The Hobbit". I don't think it was set in stone that he's directing, but he said something like that if Peter Jackson didn't want to direct, he would do it in a heartbeat. There were rumours flying around that if Raimi wasn't a part of Spidey, Toby and Kirstin were out as well. Looks like the web slinger has met his greatest enemy in a glorified troll.
I could have read it all here too... I can't remember where it was.
Spiderman = Pretty Good Spiderman 2 = Tolerable
Spiderman 3 = Arguably the worst film I have seen in the lst 5 years.
Evil Dead = Decent/Tolerable Evil Dead 2 = A Joke.
Army of Darkness = Hilarious, but a shame to films everywhere.
Spiderman 2 is a great movie if you skip every scene that has Aunt May or Mary Jane in it...unfortunatley, thats half the movie. Evil Dead 2 is one of the most enjoyable movies I have ever watched, in fact, I've never heard anyone call this movie anything short of 'awesome'. Raimi's appeal is the ability to tell simple, enjoyable stories without making them too pretentious or too dumb. I will concede that spiderman 3 was terrible, but that movie seemed to be directed more by marketing statistics than any individual.
Back when Raimi was casting Spiderman, Freddie Prinze junior wanted to be spiderman, Raimi's response 'No chance, if it was up to me, I wouldn't even let him see the movie.' classic
I would love to see some pre-Hobbit movies from Jackson, he could take creative liberties and no-one would really notice. Given the context of Tolkeins universe, the LOTR trilogy was the equivalent of two elderly, beaten and broken boxers stepping into the ring for one last bout. I want Dragons, gods, Numenor and all the other epic stories from the Silmarillion.
So what 13 chubby middle-aged actors are going to be cast as dwarves? John Rhys Davies fit the role perfectly in LoTR. With the overall physical similarities between dwarves, I think having recognisable faces would really help.
Timothy Spall and Robbie Coltrane would both fit, even if they're both in Harry Potter.
Likely there'll be a lot of unknowns, but some guys I think would make good dwarves: Phillip Seymour Hoffman would make a great Thorin. I can see Jack Black being in there, because of a prior relationship with Jackson, for one of the more comic dwarves. Brendan Gleeson, Brian Cox, Marvin Aday could all do a good job.
