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Old 09-07-2024, 07:34 AM   #101
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Yeah, all the small roads in 'rural' America have no shoulder. Basically the white line painted on edge of roadway. Beautiful, tree lined rolling roads. A cyclists dream, but really dangerous for the cyclists, would it make any sense to require riding facing oncoming traffic? Same as walking. Probably not, I have no idea. I keep thinking if the scene had played out with the Gaudreau boys facing it (instead of coming from behind) they might have had a chance...
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It's mentioned in this news story towards the end:

https://abc7chicago.com/post/sean-hi...unty/15256251/
Thanks - that removes the only half assed remotely understandable reason he had to go around on the right that I could conceive.
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Old 09-07-2024, 09:04 AM   #103
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Also read he was arrested in 2005 for DUI in North Carolina, but the charges were dropped because the arresting officer did not show up to court. Must have thought that was the luckiest day of his life.

Man the what if scenarios keep playing...
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I moved it to off topic as others suggested.

Would hate for the Gaudreau family to be snooping on Calgary reaction to their loved ones and see the name.
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I moved it to off topic as others suggested.

Would hate for the Gaudreau family to be snooping on Calgary reaction to their loved ones and see the name.
Fair enough.

His name pisses me off, I cant even imagine what it does to them.

Maybe when he's released he'll have his license permanently revoked and he'll become a cyclist. We can get him a custom shirt so that motorists know he's 'fair game.'
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Fair enough.

His name pisses me off, I cant even imagine what it does to them.

Maybe when he's released he'll have his license permanently revoked and he'll become a cyclist. We can get him a custom shirt so that motorists know he's 'fair game.'
Unfortunately revoking license doesn’t stop many people who DUI, recklessly, or without insurance. Given the history back in 2005… he most likely did not stop DUI or recklessly, he just wasn’t caught until he killed the Gaudreau brothers.

I do not know how to stop people like this because they just do not care about how their actions might impact others.

All this week me driving Crowchild to the office and back. Some people weaving in and out in a rush to flipping no where. Many times they end up right ahead of me or a couple cars ahead.
The reckless aggressive driving behaviors is also a huge part of this tragedy that this fellow likely did regularly. Yes I know I can’t prove but it is reasonable to expect this was normal behavior, unless the defense comes with some ridiculous argument why he was DUI and openly drinking in jeep.

I hope NJ law puts him away for a long time.
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Unfortunately revoking license doesn’t stop many people who DUI, recklessly, or without insurance. Given the history back in 2005… he most likely did not stop DUI or recklessly, he just wasn’t caught until he killed the Gaudreau brothers.

I do not know how to stop people like this because they just do not care about how their actions might impact others.

All this week me driving Crowchild to the office and back. Some people weaving in and out in a rush to flipping no where. Many times they end up right ahead of me or a couple cars ahead.
The reckless aggressive driving behaviors is also a huge part of this tragedy that this fellow likely did regularly. Yes I know I can’t prove but it is reasonable to expect this was normal behavior, unless the defense comes with some ridiculous argument why he was DUI and openly drinking in jeep.

I hope NJ law puts him away for a long time.
Probably to the candle light vigil. Seriously. That is humanity in a nutshell.
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Yeah, all the small roads in 'rural' America have no shoulder. Basically the white line painted on edge of roadway. Beautiful, tree lined rolling roads. A cyclists dream, but really dangerous for the cyclists, would it make any sense to require riding facing oncoming traffic? Same as walking. Probably not, I have no idea. I keep thinking if the scene had played out with the Gaudreau boys facing it (instead of coming from behind) they might have had a chance...
Intersections would get very clumsy (imagine trying to make a 'right turn' as that cyclist). Also the wind gusts from large vehicles would be even more annoying
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This ####ing ####### should be forced to watch that funeral on loop for the rest of his damned life!!!
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So in US politics, and that stupid Haitian immigrant in Ohio issue, one of the triggers was an accident involving a Haitian immigrant and a school bus, in which one of the kids on the bus was killed when he fell out of the bus which rolled. It was a clear accident, but the immigrant was at fault. No alcohol involved, no road rage. he said he was blinded. But he was found guilty of vehicular homicide, etc. He got 9 years.

Clearly this dude deserves way more than that if that's the standard.
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I moved it to off topic as others suggested.

Would hate for the Gaudreau family to be snooping on Calgary reaction to their loved ones and see the name.
Maybe take the name out of the title. Asshat Murderer could be a good substitute.
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Sounds like the drunk driver was barely over the limit - .087. I don't know much about drunk driving laws - is that a blood alcohol level that usually leads to a conviction? I understand that 0.08 is the limit in most places, is it .05 in Alberta? Is .087 just a couple of beers for the average guy or was he drunk off his ass?
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Sounds like the drunk driver was barely over the limit - .087. I don't know much about drunk driving laws - is that a blood alcohol level that usually leads to a conviction? I understand that 0.08 is the limit in most places, is it .05 in Alberta? Is .087 just a couple of beers for the average guy or was he drunk off his ass?
I found on google that a 180-190lbs man would need 4-5 standard drinks to hit .08 BAC
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Sounds like the drunk driver was barely over the limit - .087. I don't know much about drunk driving laws - is that a blood alcohol level that usually leads to a conviction? I understand that 0.08 is the limit in most places, is it .05 in Alberta? Is .087 just a couple of beers for the average guy or was he drunk off his ass?
I've never actually been breathalyzed, but have used those ones you can buy and the ones at the bar, so my experience might not be entirely accurate.

I still found .08 to be quite buzzed. Not falling over drunk, but definitely impaired. Even .07 I was pretty buzzed and would have never driven in that state.

There's some pretty good Youtube videos on the subject. It took this smaller guy 5 IPAs, at 6.9%, to blow over .08:



This whole thing of people stating that they only had 1-2 drinks with dinner and still somehow ended up over .08 is garbage. At .08 you are drunk and have been drinking pretty heavily.
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Sounds like the drunk driver was barely over the limit - .087. I don't know much about drunk driving laws - is that a blood alcohol level that usually leads to a conviction? I understand that 0.08 is the limit in most places, is it .05 in Alberta? Is .087 just a couple of beers for the average guy or was he drunk off his ass?
They said he failed a field sobriety test as well, so he was impaired at that level.

Also, if that 0.087 was after they arrested him and arranged for a blood test, there could have been some time in between the accident and the test.
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They said he failed a field sobriety test as well, so he was impaired at that level.

Also, if that 0.087 was after they arrested him and arranged for a blood test, there could have been some time in between the accident and the test.
Field sobriety tests in the US are crap, and you can pass or fail them easily with or without alcohol. I don't know why they don't use roadside breathalizers.

I've run the impaired defence where you use a doctor as an expert to contradict the blood test (this was 30 years ago or so) and I suspect that level would be pretty easy to beat in court.

Frankly the witnessed behaviour should get a conviction and the punishment should be worse than the Humbolt driver or the immigrant I mentioned above.
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In many jurisdictions, you don't actually have to be .08 to be charged with impaired driving. The test is whether or not you were impaired, and blood alcohol is a piece of evidence towards that determination.

In this case, the guy plowed through a shoulder while speeding without looking out for what was ahead. Seems like pretty bad judgement to me.

Even if he's not impaired, that doesn't stop him from being charged with vehicular homicide.

Higgins' wife has turned against him and is providing evidence about his history of road rage and drunk driving, and he's now on suicide watch:

https://www.audacy.com/kywnewsradio/...cular-homicide
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In many jurisdictions, you don't actually have to be .08 to be charged with impaired driving. The test is whether or not you were impaired, and blood alcohol is a piece of evidence towards that determination.

In this case, the guy plowed through a shoulder while speeding without looking out for what was ahead. Seems like pretty bad judgement to me.

Even if he's not impaired, that doesn't stop him from being charged with vehicular homicide.

Higgins' wife has turned against him and is providing evidence about his history of road rage and drunk driving, and he's now on suicide watch:

https://www.audacy.com/kywnewsradio/...cular-homicide
He even admitted at the scene that alcohol made him more impatient. Probably a case of where someone should have exercised their right to remain silent.
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Some pretty damning comments from Dirtbag Higgin’s wife in this story:

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl...-nhl-1.7322610
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