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		|  06-05-2007, 05:05 PM | #61 |  
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					Originally Posted by the crispy badger  I dont understand how someone CANNOT believe in ghosts ..I've been following the adventures of the "okcgc" research team for the past 5 years, they are based in Oklahoma and have some very REAL evidence of ghostly phenomea including this pic taken from a webcam on their site..this was taken during a random investigation and I truly believe that this is in no way tampered with.
 
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I don't get it.  Maybe my monitor sucks and I am missing something in the background.  But is the woman holding the mike suppossed to be the ghost?  Or the white "C".  Even so. Photo's can be tampered with so easily.  Hard to prove that ghosts  exist with a photo.
		 
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		|  06-05-2007, 05:20 PM | #62 |  
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					Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn  I don't get it.  Maybe my monitor sucks and I am missing something in the background.  But is the woman holding the mike suppossed to be the ghost?  Or the white "C".  Even so. Photo's can be tampered with so easily.  Hard to prove that ghosts exist with a photo. |  
I understand that it's tough to prove that ghosts  exist..but it you explore the okcgc site you would discover that they have been through many real experiences and that they have no reason to fake a ghost since they have been doing research for years and years...http://www.researchwebcam.net/ 
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		|  06-05-2007, 05:27 PM | #63 |  
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			when i lived in edinburgh my flat was built in the early 1600s.  
 we had a ghost and it was widely reported before we moved in.  of course, one only finds this stuff out AFTER weird stuff happens...
 
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		|  06-05-2007, 05:27 PM | #64 |  
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					Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn  I don't get it. Maybe my monitor sucks and I am missing something in the background. But is the woman holding the mike suppossed to be the ghost? Or the white "C". Even so. Photo's can be tampered with so easily. Hard to prove that ghosts exist with a photo. |  
Its that shadowy figure behind her... (which in all likelihood is her shadow)
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		|  06-05-2007, 06:09 PM | #65 |  
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					Originally Posted by nieuwy-89  IIn one school, maintenance crews have reported hearing music start playing spontaneously. They have tried to find the source of the music but never can...it just kind of permeates the school and then stops. |  
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		|  06-05-2007, 06:15 PM | #66 |  
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			YES I DO because my hockey team played that way in the 2006-2007 season. I really don't want to talk about it.
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		|  06-11-2007, 07:45 PM | #67 |  
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			well, again, this isn't a first hand account. but i was talking to the maitenance crew at the good ol' wild rose arena, just before it was set to close (don't get me started on that    ) anyways, they swear by the fact that it's haunted. i don't doubt it either...the stories just seem to real to be false...it was quite the coincidence that like a week after i found out about them that global did a little spot on the rink being haunted...i'm not saying that has anything to do with it, but you can watch the stuff on youtube somewheres...
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		|  06-11-2007, 08:33 PM | #68 |  
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			I had a friend who had a little cousin, she was about 5 at the time, her mom said she used to sit in the basement talking to herself for hours, one day the mom finally asked who she was talking to and the little girl said Jack and described a older man.
 Well the mothers fathers name was jack and had passed away before the girl was born, so the mother got a picture of her father and showed it to the little girl
 
 "Thats the man mom, thats the man thats been talking to me"
 
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		|  06-11-2007, 11:08 PM | #70 |  
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					Originally Posted by Eddie Bronze  The summer of 2001 I was working at a place called Haddon Hall Inn (Nova Scotia) on the groundskeeping crew. Apparently the place is haunted by not just one ghost, but a few and in different locations. One room in the main building is bad enough they put a lock on it so you can "lock it open" as it were because many people have gone in and had the door shut and lock behind them and had to wait for help to get out. There's all kinds of stories about things that have happened that I can't recount at this moment, but judging from the crazy ole bat that ran the place when I worked there, you're never sure what you should believe when it comes from her. But the workers had stories, too. I ended up with one of my own.
 Haddon Hall Inn is located atop Haddon Hill. At the base of entry to the Inn there is a building that used to be the Gatehouse. Now all the buildings are converted to rooms for the Inn but back in the original days of the place, a woman lived there and she had a child who was either born dead or died right after birth. Bear with me here as some of the details of the story are cloudy now, but apparently the woman died there at the Gatehouse as well and she haunts the place to this day.
 
 We were mowing that area one day and my brother-in-law (who I worked with that summer) went to dump the grass so I just took a quick break and sat on the patio. I looked back in the wooded area and then as I looked away I saw the image of a woman in a long white gown moving with her arms cradled like she was holding a baby. I quickly looked back but saw nothing. It was only a brief flash and to be 100% honest with you guys, I didn't even know the story of the woman until later that summer. My bro-in-law and I were in the shed talking about this place being haunted one day and he told me the story of the woman and it kind of freaked me out. Every time I think about it I get cold chills. I never did believe in ghosts and still don't, I think someone just slipped some drugs in my water jug that day.
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		|  06-12-2007, 12:10 AM | #71 |  
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			Yet another hearsay story...While in university, I used to work at the Bay downtown...Apparently, there is one office there which is haunted...a number of years ago, a customer started feeling unwell and the staff had him sit in one of the offices.  The gentlemen died before the ambulance came...ever since then, that office has been haunted - I never saw or felt anything, but my manager at the time felt/saw something in that office, as well as the security guards who patrol the place at night...
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		|  06-12-2007, 09:15 AM | #72 |  
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					Originally Posted by Thunderball  Its that shadowy figure behind her... (which in all likelihood is her shadow) |  
um..that figure behind her looks NOTHING like a shadow
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		|  06-12-2007, 09:18 AM | #73 |  
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					Originally Posted by the crispy badger  um..that figure behind her looks NOTHING like a shadow |  
Then you'll be convinced by this picture
 
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		|  06-12-2007, 09:19 AM | #74 |  
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			Why there are almost certainly no ghosts :
 
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html
 
At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event.
 
To date, no one has ever passed the preliminary tests 
If anyone could prove it, they would get $1,000,000.00.
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		|  06-12-2007, 10:09 AM | #75 |  
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			Doesn't anyone else find it a little hard to lend any creditably to these stories as the majority of them are second hand accounts? I am sure some of you just like to pass on these stories for fun, but really does anyone take these to be more than just entertainment?
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		|  06-12-2007, 10:45 AM | #76 |  
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					Originally Posted by feartheflames  I have never exprienced any supernatural phenomenon myself, and I don't like to believe in ghost or psychics even. but I was having a discussion with my friends and.... well... I'll tell you their stories
 My friend is native and their culture believes heavily in spirtual realms and ghosts, good and bad, my friend however, was a non believer. He says he was visiting his uncle's family who lived in a trailer, the windows of his trailer rise to approximately 7ft + in height. The entire family was up late catching up on old times when all of a sudden the room went cold and everones hair stood up- they looked out the window at there was a man staring at them, the family stood and watched horrified, the man than began to circle the trailer and continued to do so for a couple minutes.
 
 on to my other friend, she says almost every morning she wakes up around 3:00 am with an intense feeling of fear and feels as if someone is watching her from her doorway. My friend is Christian and she says that 3:00 am is the time ghost/bad spirits are allowed to wander.
 
 now neither one of these people are liars. I'm not sure what to believe. What do you think?
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The 3:00am thing is really creepy because I've heard of that before, and apparently it's evil spirit's way of mocking the death of christ because he died at 3 in the afternoon. I'm Catholic and I've had some of the same experiences of feeling a presence or hearing someone walk through my room in the middle of the night. It sounds like they are stepping on and through my laundry on the floor. (Im not really thr tidyest.)
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		|  06-12-2007, 01:47 PM | #77 |  
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			never had and never will believe in ghosts. the human imagination is much more powerful than people give it credit for, and if someone has a predisposition to believe in something, then our brain has a knack for filling in all the blanks to make it real
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		|  06-12-2007, 01:49 PM | #78 |  
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					Originally Posted by Burninator  Doesn't anyone else find it a little hard to lend any creditably to these stories as the majority of them are second hand accounts? |  
OK, let's take those out of the equation then.  What about the first hand accounts.  There's been a few in this thread.  
 
And I would really like somebody to offer a hypothesis that explains mine.   
Edit- yes I do realize that I am playing the role of conspiracy theorist here in asking somebody to disprove my theory.  But I am intending this in a fun sort of way.
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		|  06-12-2007, 02:03 PM | #79 |  
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					Originally Posted by ken0042  OK, let's take those out of the equation then.  What about the first hand accounts.  There's been a few in this thread.  
 And I would really like somebody to offer a hypothesis that explains mine.
 Edit- yes I do realize that I am playing the role of conspiracy theorist here in asking somebody to disprove my theory.  But I am intending this in a fun sort of way.
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I would like the same for my earlier story.  Not that anyone can convince me what I saw, heard and felt was not real, it would be interesting.
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					Originally Posted by ken0042  OK, let's take those out of the equation then.  What about the first hand accounts.  There's been a few in this thread.  
 And I would really like somebody to offer a hypothesis that explains mine.
 Edit- yes I do realize that I am playing the role of conspiracy theorist here in asking somebody to disprove my theory.  But I am intending this in a fun sort of way.
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well there could be several explanations for yours. maybe someone was playing a trick on you and just never owned up to it. maybe the paper was never put into a box and was misplaced somewhere, put in with other documents and fell out on the counter. or it could be any number of other reasons that you just can't think of. but rationally speaking, what makes more sense? that a ghost gave you the piece of paper you needed, or that it was merely a coincidence, and has a simple explanation even though you don't know what that is?
 
it's strange how when the human mind is presented with something it can't understand, we have to put some sort of reasoning behind it no matter how fantastical that reasoning may be. and that probably gives you the whole foundation of every religion on the planet
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