Well Craig Button did have Jankowski and Erixon high the year we took them. Pretty sure they do talk during the season. Hard to read too much into it though.
I always wish someone smarter than myself did an analysis to see how much of a correlation their is between the Flames and Craigs rankings,
He also had Mangiapane, Ollas-Mattson and Sieloff much higher than others if I remember correctly. Their is probalyy more as well.
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The range of opinion on d is wild. Having fabbro and bean in the top 10. Pretty wild stuff. F seems to be pretty similar across lists but the d is all over the map. Makes me a little uneasy if we pick a d with this wide variation but I guess it comes down to trusting the scouts.
I think if the Flames are picking anywhere in the top six, one of the six on that list will be pulling a Flames jersey over his head, and for me it would be in the exact order he listed them. If the Flames are picking 5th-7th, I'm assuming that another team will take Chychrun ahead of them. Looking at the other teams in the neighbourhood standings wise, all of the teams save the Flames and the Jets could use a high calibre D-prospect. Chychrun is the only D-man of the three main guys that I would take over Tkachuk/Nylander.
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I always wish someone smarter than myself did an analysis to see how much of a correlation their is between the Flames and Craigs rankings,
He also had Mangiapane, Ollas-Mattson and Sieloff much higher than others if I remember correctly. Their is probalyy more as well.
Impossible to do, I would think.
First, not enough data: only 7 picks per year.
Second, no way to account for other teams taking (or not taking) players from the Flames' list.
If you could get the Flames' list, and get Craig's list, and get other lists, then you could see if Craig's had a higher correlation to the Flames than other lists had.
Otherwise, it's just fun to speculate.
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Craig Button was very low on Virtanen, but I seem to recall that Virtanen was more highly thought of by the Flames.
The correlation between the Button brothers makes it more difficult to figure out when there are other layers in-between - Feaster/Weisbrod before, and Burke/Treliving/Conroy/Pascal now.
One would figure they do talk, but I would imagine even between the two brothers, they must have a difference of opinion at times. Only way to figure out if there indeed is any consensus between them is to obtain Todd's list - and that would never happen for obvious reasons.
"McLeod is a guaranteed NHL'er -- a faster version of J.T. Miller who can be used to anchor any of he top 3 lines, but likely ends up a 2C at the most. He is a low-maintenance player and has great vision with a serious problem finishing around the cage. I compared him to Brandon Dubinsky, a guy who has all the tools to be a top player but has carved out a nice career as an above-average player."
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Friedman said today that as much as the Flames want a goalie don't underestimate how bad they want a big rugged winger as well.
I can't help but think Max Jones might be the guy that causes them to go tunnel vision at the draft. I remember how bad they wanted Ritchie a few years ago.
Only problem is he would be to much of a reach at 6-8 IMO. Trade down? Arizona and Carolina could be potential trading partners since they have N.Y and L.A's picks respectively.
McKenzie on That's Hockey 2 Nite said one scout told him that anyone picking from 4-12, there is not a lot of difference between the group of 8 players.
Whether its Tkachuck, Dubois, Nylander, McLeod, Chychrun, Juolevi, Sergachev, or Bean.
He said one scout put it this way "every team picking 4-12 could get the guy they have ranked as #4 in this draft". This suggests there is a lot of subjectivity from 4-12.
He also said most people have Tkachuk or Dubois as #4 but there isn't a lot of difference in that group of players.
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McKenzie on That's Hockey 2 Nite said one scout told him that anyone picking from 4-12, there is not a lot of difference between the group of 8 players.
Whether its Tkachuck, Dubois, Nylander, McLeod, Chychrun, Juolevi, Sergachev, or Bean.
He said one scout put it this way "every team picking 4-12 could get the guy they have ranked as #4 in this draft". This suggests there is a lot of subjectivity from 4-12.
He also said most people have Tkachuk or Dubois as #4 but there isn't a lot of difference in that group of players.
wonder if that leads to more trades in that part of the draft
I would trade up for Dubois or Tkatchuk. Or move down for Jones. Have a feeling theres going to be a bunch of busts in the first round this year. These guys look to have decent floors, high hockey sense, hard working and would fit the team.
McKenzie on That's Hockey 2 Nite said one scout told him that anyone picking from 4-12, there is not a lot of difference between the group of 8 players.
Whether its Tkachuck, Dubois, Nylander, McLeod, Chychrun, Juolevi, Sergachev, or Bean.
He said one scout put it this way "every team picking 4-12 could get the guy they have ranked as #4 in this draft". This suggests there is a lot of subjectivity from 4-12.
He also said most people have Tkachuk or Dubois as #4 but there isn't a lot of difference in that group of players.
Hmmm sounding like Bean is solidifying himself as a lottery pick. I know redline report had them #7 or something. I think they're based out of Calgary though as they are very high on all Hitmen.
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Hmmm sounding like Bean is solidifying himself as a lottery pick. I know redline report had them #7 or something. I think they're based out of Calgary though as they are very high on all Hitmen.
Well Woodlief the head scout is based out of NY. But they do have a WHL scout and Calgary is not a bad place to have your WHL scout based out of.
I've seen some people say Bean is atrocious defensively. That may drop him for some teams. But other teams believe defense can be taught by a good minor league coach and that his offensive ability is something you could never teach. I think our scouts thought that when we were able to snag Kylington who's offensive ability and skating was not in question but his defensive game among other things was.
our organization is strong in puck moving dmen and he's got average size so I think his skill set won't be prioritized by us this draft, there's 9 guys that sound more appealing for the Flames IMO
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