Also looks like they found the Mark Jankowski of goaltenders:
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One of our spies in Europe recently alerted us to a late-season darkhorse who has emerged out of Belgium.
Belgium, you ask? Yes, Belgium. And yes, it’s definitely the first time Red Line has ever had a Belgian in our rankings.
Goaltender Wouter Peeters has yet to turn 18 (not till July 31st), but is already in his third year with the Red Bull Academy in Salzburg. He plays for their so-called farm team, which is essentially an under-21 team made up of players from all over the world. They don’t play in any league (!) and are essentially a travelling team.
The first half of the season they went to tournaments and exhibition games in the United States, Switzerland and Finland. Only recently they have been playing some games at home (Salzburg) or in the Czech Republic. A posse of scouts have gone to check out the 6-foot-4, 205-pounder and in a telling sign, the crowd of talent hunters has been increasing — not decreasing — as the season has progressed.
Peeters’ Red Bull squad played a tournament last weekend (Lillehammer juniors, plus the Slovak & German U-19s) and there were about 15 NHL scouts in the stands. Not only local guys, but Finnish and Swedish scouts also flew in. Even guys who had written him off before as being too raw and too much of a project have come back to give Peeters another gander. Size, of course, is his main selling point and although he’s a bit up and down, he’s athletic and has good upside.
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Lots of talk about Jost and Fabbro... don't these two want to go play college - would it be in our best interest to pick someone who will not be playing their first year of college next year? Maybe their plans will change being drafted so high but this is why they stuck to the bchl isn't it?
Jost is scheduled to be at North Dakota next season, Fabbro at BU. They will not go back to the BCHL.
The only question is if they decide to go WHL instead of NCAA as a few prospects have done after being drafted, but still it seems likely that they are both NCAA bound.
That's four defencemen in their top ten plus Olli Juolevi is usually ranked in there as well. If we want a defenceman or Jost, it looks like we could trade down.
Ya I'm not sure what to make about drafting in the 6 spot if Tkachuck and Dubois are gone. Seems like those are the 2 the Flames would target outside the top 3. If they are gone I guess you could have your pick of whatever D you want or Nylander... Maybe even a dark horse like Jost? The scouts have their work cut out for them.
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I honestly can't even bring myself to watch any Matthews or Laine highlights.
If a miracle happens I will watch that stuff until the cows come home, but otherwise I'm not watching two elite prospects light it up right before they likely become oilers or canucks.
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That's four defencemen in their top ten plus Olli Juolevi is usually ranked in there as well. If we want a defenceman or Jost, it looks like we could trade down.
Since the top three doesn't look realistic I've been thinking the same thing. I could see us trading our pick, likely 6th through 8th, to Boston for the 14th and 20th picks. We kick in the #54 for balance. That would give us a shot at two players from the group of Logan Brown, Julien Gauthier, Max Jones, and Riley Tufte. I would be happy walking away with two of those players from this draft. We would still have the Dallas pick hanging out there as well. It would be nice if that pick came to fruition and we were able to roll the dice on a player like DeBrincat. With our early second Taylor Raddysh would be a nice pick too. Add a goaltender and a couple physical defensemen with other picks and we'd be laughing. If we came away from the draft with that haul that would probably make our system the best for depth in the NHL and have some really interesting options going forward.
Since the top three doesn't look realistic I've been thinking the same thing. I could see us trading our pick, likely 6th through 8th, to Boston for the 14th and 20th picks. We kick in the #54 for balance. That would give us a shot at two players from the group of Logan Brown, Julien Gauthier, Max Jones, and Riley Tufte. I would be happy walking away with two of those players from this draft. We would still have the Dallas pick hanging out there as well. It would be nice if that pick came to fruition and we were able to roll the dice on a player like DeBrincat. With our early second Taylor Raddysh would be a nice pick too. Add a goaltender and a couple physical defensemen with other picks and we'd be laughing. If we came away from the draft with that haul that would probably make our system the best for depth in the NHL and have some really interesting options going forward.
Ugh. No thanks. There is a defined top 12 and we should be focused on quality vs quantity. Barring no lotto pick, believe we should take bpa and end up with top six f or top pairing d. Don't trade out of the top 12 and take more but lesser prospects.
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That's four defencemen in their top ten plus Olli Juolevi is usually ranked in there as well. If we want a defenceman or Jost, it looks like we could trade down.
From Craig Button
TSN's @craigjbutton: Hard to justify taking a defenseman fourth overall; Boeser and Demko are elite prospects
Go to tsn Vancouver Twitter Account and there is a soundcloud linked to the tweet. Heard a snippet of the interview and button is bullish on the f class, maybe more so than others.
Ugh. No thanks. There is a defined top 12 and we should be focused on quality vs quantity. Barring no lotto pick, believe we should take bpa and end up with top six f or top pairing d. Don't trade out of the top 12 and take more but lesser prospects.
There is a top three, then there is a complete mess. The liquidity in the reports in from the various services tells you just how much uncertainty there is, especially with the "next strata" of draft picks after the top three. It appears to me that the next 20 players are all pretty good prospects and could be just as impactful as the next. I would go as far as to say that the best player from this group (a player drafted outside the top three) will be a surprise in five years. I think someone drafting outside the top 10 will get the best player from the mess that exists after the top three.
One last point. The only BPA that exists is from the individual team draft list. Just because Bob MacKenzie publishes what he thinks the draft order will look like does not mean that is what the draft order is going to be. Some teams will draft for specific needs. Some will draft with a specific philosophy. Some will draft based on a certain criteria (interviews for example) that pushes certain players way down their lists. There is no list that defines the BPA except that list for the team at the podium. So to say that a certain player is not worthy of selection because of "BPA" is just a bunch of garbage. No one knows the draft list of any team so you can't drag out the BPA argument because you have no idea who is on what list. Again, the fluidity in the lists from the various scouting services shows there is no consensus, so it is impossible for 30 member teams with different scouts to reach a list that is the same.
mackenzie's list is the compilation of 10 scouts lists i believe...so while Button's is his personal views on players, Mackenzie's is more of a broad consensus of a bunch of NHL scouts.
this is why i tend to prefer Bob's list over others
I'm ok in moving back if a team is all over a player that the Flames just don't see as high (Nylander is the guy that I see here, but it could also be a specific defenseman). But I'm not sure I'm as juiced with moving back a bunch of picks.
I was thinking more like 6/7 down to 8/9 and pick up a 2nd and draft the guy you want anyway.
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mackenzie's list is the compilation of 10 scouts lists i believe...so while Button's is his personal views on players, Mackenzie's is more of a broad consensus of a bunch of NHL scouts.
this is why i tend to prefer Bob's list over others
10 scouts out of how many? Statistically they mean little. MacKenzie's list is about as accurate as RGI. It is great for conjecture, but doesn't mean much once a team takes to the podium.
I'm ok in moving back if a team is all over a player that the Flames just don't see as high (Nylander is the guy that I see here, but it could also be a specific defenseman). But I'm not sure I'm as juiced with moving back a bunch of picks.
I was thinking more like 6/7 down to 8/9 and pick up a 2nd and draft the guy you want anyway.
What is the difference between dropping to #14 to pick up the #20 pick, versus dropping to the 9-10 pick to pick up a pick in the 40 range? If the player they want is available at either slot you trade down and take the additional asset.
There is no way the quality of the players drafted 15-20 is the same as 5-10.
The only way I see us moving back is if the forward we want is gone and choose to target a dman instead. Even then I think it's unlikely we drop below ten.
If the Flames pick 7th after the lotto, I'd have no problem sliding back to 13th instead if we pick up say the 23rd overall pick from Carolina or 14th + 20th from Boston. It opens up options, but it largely depends on what's available etc.
Just depends on what the scouts think of the guys and if so and so should be available at 13-14 that they think should be. Say a guy like Gauthier, McLeod, or Logan Brown (6-6 center expected to go 15th or so).
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